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    I have to admit I don't understand conservative passion with respect to Israel. Jewish organizations in the US work against your ideology and have for a century. That said, the claim that criticism of Israel does not necessarily entail a hatred for Jews is true but there are several members who use this defense yet let comments along the lines of 'rich Jews controlling our country' slip. Own your dislike for Jews. It's more respectable than being a coward.
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    And I suspect JAP isn't even an American.

    I'm done.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister D View Post
    I have to admit I don't understand conservative passion with respect to Israel. Jewish organizations in the US work against your ideology and have for a century. That said, the claim that criticism of Israel does not necessarily entail a hatred for Jews is true but there are several members who use this defense yet let comments along the lines of 'rich Jews controlling our country' slip. Own your dislike for Jews. It's more respectable than being a coward.
    I prefer Israel to the other options in the region including SA. Having said that we need to stop arming them all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by donttread View Post
    I prefer Israel to the other options in the region including SA. Having said that we need to stop arming them all.
    Okay the US stops arming them. Then the Russians and or Chinese arm them. How does that benefit the US?


    Were you going to charge them for Disaster relief. Now the US is out of Billions of dollars. So the US government then makes money where.....Scanning over the US population. What was that you said?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Just AnotherPerson View Post
    I think it is good to be clear, that when we have a problem with another nation, be it Saudi Arabia, or Israel. It usually never has anything to do with the people of that nation, it is just their leaders, or the ones who are doing the wrong.

    I think that the people of Israel are no different than all of us. Many of the Jews in Israel are very unhappy with what their leaders are doing, and also the Jewish Americans have greatly expressed their dissaproval of what their nation, and ours are doing.

    Also even the people of Saudi Arabia are just people, human beings like you and me. They have nothing to do with what their leaders are doing. Just like we in America often are very unhappy with what our nation does in our name. Many attrocities have been done in our name. It is a crime really, becasue we dont condone those actions in most cases. But the people of other nations dont know that, therfore they might hate us too. Because most people do not seperate the people from their gov.

    But we should all know the dissaproval of a gov action, or wealthy individual, does not often represent the ideals of their entire nation. Even though, I blast Saudi Arabia over Yemen, not once do I mean the citizens of that nation. Just the same for expressing my dissaproval of the Gov of Israel, and the wealthy Jews dictatating american policies. Those kinds of acts are treasonoous. When our president does the bidding of another nation that is not putting America first.

    It is the people who have a say in our nation. It is a nation by the people for the people. If we allow billionaires to steal our voice, or other nations to steal our voice, then the people of this nation no longer have a voice. Then it is just a nation that is not by the people for for the people. It becomes something else entirely. It is the erosion of our Democracy and what we stand for.

    It is not anti-Semitic to not want another nation to have influence on American policies. This is America.

    All human beings are just human beings. There is no difference between a Jew and an American or an Arabian, we are all just people. We all share this same planet and face the same struggles, and all have hopes and dreams. Both Saudi Arabia, and Israel have amazing people, and beautiful nations.

    Keep in mind it is only the few who are destroying everything for all of us. Not the people. Even the problems between nations and the bloodshed of the innocent can often be tracked back to the greed of corporations. It is time that we end this corruption, and end the blood shed of the innocent of the world.

    Wanting to solve issues and caring about our democracy is not hate based.

    Wealthy everybody dictates American politics . Also the people themselves are seldom the true force behind it's government's evils. Including us?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captdon View Post
    3.8 billion dollars a year buys all the influence we need.
    Ah yes 38 billion to another nation. so we will cut taxes for the wealthy in our nation, we will cut food stamps for the poor, cut medical for the poor, and we will reprioritize and do as much for the wealthy as possible.

    On top of that give 38 billion to Israel, while our own nation cant even fix its roads. https://israelpalestinenews.org/isra...-the-new-deal/

    You guys argue a lot about giving even one dollar to the poor in this nation, but you are all for giving the tax payers money away to other nations, and to giving our money to mega corporations. You promote taking the money from the poor and give it to the wealthy, like the opposite of robin hood. And all the while call US un-American. What a sorry joke!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Just AnotherPerson View Post
    I think it is good to be clear, that when we have a problem with another nation, be it Saudi Arabia, or Israel. It usually never has anything to do with the people of that nation, it is just their leaders, or the ones who are doing the wrong.

    I think that the people of Israel are no different than all of us. Many of the Jews in Israel are very unhappy with what their leaders are doing, and also the Jewish Americans have greatly expressed their dissaproval of what their nation, and ours are doing.

    Also even the people of Saudi Arabia are just people, human beings like you and me. They have nothing to do with what their leaders are doing. Just like we in America often are very unhappy with what our nation does in our name. Many attrocities have been done in our name. It is a crime really, becasue we dont condone those actions in most cases. But the people of other nations dont know that, therfore they might hate us too. Because most people do not seperate the people from their gov.

    But we should all know the dissaproval of a gov action, or wealthy individual, does not often represent the ideals of their entire nation. Even though, I blast Saudi Arabia over Yemen, not once do I mean the citizens of that nation. Just the same for expressing my dissaproval of the Gov of Israel, and the wealthy Jews dictatating american policies. Those kinds of acts are treasonoous. When our president does the bidding of another nation that is not putting America first.

    It is the people who have a say in our nation. It is a nation by the people for the people. If we allow billionaires to steal our voice, or other nations to steal our voice, then the people of this nation no longer have a voice. Then it is just a nation that is not by the people for for the people. It becomes something else entirely. It is the erosion of our Democracy and what we stand for.

    It is not anti-Semitic to not want another nation to have influence on American policies. This is America.

    All human beings are just human beings. There is no difference between a Jew and an American or an Arabian, we are all just people. We all share this same planet and face the same struggles, and all have hopes and dreams. Both Saudi Arabia, and Israel have amazing people, and beautiful nations.

    Keep in mind it is only the few who are destroying everything for all of us. Not the people. Even the problems between nations and the bloodshed of the innocent can often be tracked back to the greed of corporations. It is time that we end this corruption, and end the blood shed of the innocent of the world.

    Wanting to solve issues and caring about our democracy is not hate based.
    You don’t know anything about the mind-set of the Israeli people. You view everything through a partisan lense.

    The Israeli people live under the threat of terrorism every minute of every day. They are surrounded by people who have vowed to remove their country from the face of the earth. They understand the old saying “peace through strength”. You know nothing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Just AnotherPerson View Post
    Ah yes 38 billion to another nation. so we will cut taxes for the wealthy in our nation, we will cut food stamps for the poor, cut medical for the poor, and we will reprioritize and do as much for the wealthy as possible.

    On top of that give 38 billion to Israel, while our own nation cant even fix its roads. https://israelpalestinenews.org/isra...-the-new-deal/

    You guys argue a lot about giving even one dollar to the poor in this nation, but you are all for giving the tax payers money away to other nations, and to giving our money to mega corporations. You promote taking the money from the poor and give it to the wealthy, like the opposite of robin hood. And all the while call US un-American. What a sorry joke!
    3.8 billion. you missed the decimal point.
    Tuesday sounds about right

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toober View Post
    3.8 billion. you missed the decimal point.
    There is more missing here than a decimal point, just sayin'...

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    Quote Originally Posted by jigglepete View Post
    There is more missing here than a decimal point, just sayin'...
    perhaps, but missing 34.2 billion dollars is a huge miss.
    Tuesday sounds about right

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