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    We need to end citizens united. We can no longer allow votes to be purchased or muted.

    We need voter reform, and to make sure all elections are fair. We need to end the electoral college. Because every single voice should be counted. If we are good enough to take a bullet for our nation, and to pay taxes, then we have the right for our vote to be counted.
    Citizens United was a free speech issue, something the left is against.

    Getting rid of the Electoral College is a bad idea. The EC protects minority states. The real reason the left wants to get rid of the EC because they know that it will consolidate power to the major cities that have the most welfare.
    Liberalism (noun): when over-privileged white people rule society by pretending to care about the plight of minorities.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Who View Post
    Thanks but JAP is a good and well-meaning person @countryboy. We don't have to read what we don't want to read, but we are all here for discussion. Would you deny those who want to read JAP's posts because you don't want to read them? This forum stays alive because of its diversity of opinion. Forums that lack that diversity tend to disappear. The more diverse posts we get on this forum, the more members we get. These days that's a big deal because political forums are dying all over the place.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Who View Post
    Thanks but JAP is a good and well-meaning person @countryboy. We don't have to read what we don't want to read, but we are all here for discussion. Would you deny those who want to read JAP's posts because you don't want to read them? This forum stays alive because of its diversity of opinion. Forums that lack that diversity tend to disappear. The more diverse posts we get on this forum, the more members we get. These days that's a big deal because political forums are dying all over the place.
    Lol, I'd rather read War and Peace, it's shorter.

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    If the Demos were serious about getting money out of elections. Then they wouldn't have a problem with if people want to donate money then they have to live in the state they are voting in. No outside money.


    Of course, the Demos don't want that....as then their Hollyweird Stars couldn't flood states with money for the Demos.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Who View Post
    Thanks but JAP is a good and well-meaning person @countryboy. We don't have to read what we don't want to read, but we are all here for discussion. Would you deny those who want to read JAP's posts because you don't want to read them? This forum stays alive because of its diversity of opinion. Forums that lack that diversity tend to disappear. The more diverse posts we get on this forum, the more members we get. These days that's a big deal because political forums are dying all over the place.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    This is obvious to most sensible people. US politicians are, for the most part, total scumbags who lie about almost everything.

    And it's not like they tell little white lies that harm nobody. Their lies are often gigantic and extremely harmful to large amounts of people.

    And they do all this in pursuit of money and power. Only a complete fool would believe the US political class are motivated by love for America.

    But it's not entirely their fault. The idiots who keep voting these scumbags into power share a large amount of the blame. It is the cowardice, greed, and stupidity of the average voter that empowers these scumbags.

    A little on the hyperbolic side, but for the most part concur with the premise of the OP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoosier8 View Post
    Citizens United was a free speech issue, something the left is against.

    Getting rid of the Electoral College is a bad idea. The EC protects minority states. The real reason the left wants to get rid of the EC because they know that it will consolidate power to the major cities that have the most welfare.
    Citizens United ended the unchallenged power held by labor unions. That's why the left is against it.

    Without the EC, the entire country would be ruled (not governed) by uber liberal metro elites. Eliminating it would lead to complete disaster.
    Last edited by Tahuyaman; 12-04-2018 at 02:05 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoosier8 View Post
    It appears the OP has just discovered this. There is an old saying, how do you know when a politician is a lying? His lips move.
    Not any more. Some of them have learned to lie in body language!

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