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    Quote Originally Posted by Tahuyaman View Post
    I would imagine that admistering thus drug would be just as easy.
    Very easy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Common View Post
    Narcan comes with more liability being a drug, its not hard to administer and anyone can do it, spray up their nose. The point is side affects if the person has an adverse medical episode, unfortunately lawyers will have a party and history clearly demonstrates that. If the person administered to dies of a heart attack the family sues.

    With a Fibrillator the person is already in dire jeopardy and theres less if any liability


    Except Narcan doesn't hurt you if you're not high on opiates . It only acts to block the opiates. I suppose a weird circumstance could occur, but I believe several states have laws to protect the people doing the administration. Like good samaritan laws.
    Poof, problem solved. Put Narcan on EVERY emergency vehicle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Helena View Post
    I don't know how I feel about this. This topic came up in another forum some time ago, and the issue brought up was that cops used it routinely on the same OD perps over and over again. At some point,isn't enough enough? I think there's a difference between a cop saving someone from a burning car and administering narcan to the same guy many times over.
    I see drug overdoses the same way I see a self inflicted gunshot wound. If they want to do that to themselves, let them accept the consequences.

    No one should be required or feel an obligation to save them, and the taxpayers certainly should not have to pay for it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by donttread View Post
    You can get it in non injectable forms that take about as much training as firing off a fire extinguisher. ALL police and first responders should carry Narcan. Period!
    Why?
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    I think every drug addict should buy and carry their own narcan. Treat it like an individual first aid kit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HumblePi View Post
    It's part of the duty of police to save lives when possible.

    Actually, it is their job to enforce the law. That's all. The Supreme Court has ruled in at least two cases that Police have no legal obligation to "save" anybody.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cletus View Post
    Actually, it is their job to enforce the law. That's all. The Supreme Court has ruled in at least two cases that Police have no legal obligation to "save" anybody.
    That was the only acceptable response. Were the answer yes lawsuits would close down most if not all police departments.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cletus View Post
    I see drug overdoses the same way I see a self inflicted gunshot wound. If they want to do that to themselves, let them accept the consequences.

    No one should be required or feel an obligation to save them, and the taxpayers certainly should not have to pay for it.
    Using your rationale, we shouldn't cut people out of cars who were in accidents due to inattention, cell phone usage, intoxication, etc after all let them accept the consequences of their actions. And as you said, "the taxpayers should not have to pay for it".
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    Quote Originally Posted by gamewell45 View Post
    Using your rationale, we shouldn't cut people out of cars who were in accidents due to inattention, cell phone usage, intoxication, etc after all let them accept the consequences of their actions. And as you said, "the taxpayers should not have to pay for it".

    There is a bit of a difference between trying to help someone who was not engaging in particularly risky activity who finds himself in a bad way and trying to save someone who deliberately pumped his system full of poison.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MisterVeritis View Post
    I think every drug addict should buy and carry their own narcan. Treat it like an individual first aid kit.
    It would be prudent for a drug addict to carry it.

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