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    Quote Originally Posted by Captdon View Post
    You aren't everybody. When, and if, I go to Midnight Mass, I am thinking about the birth of Jesus Christ. The Golden Calf is OT. If that's what Christmas means to you that's your business. Don't tell me what it is to me.

    Merry Christmas, Grinch.
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    Ughh...meant outside the Temple.

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    Quote Originally Posted by William View Post
    According to Britannica.com - nobody knows when Jesus was born, and the Pagan Germanic festival of jōl, which referred to the winter solstice, became the festival of Yuletide, and its Christian meaning probably began in Germany with Weihnachten - which means 'hallowed night'.

    One explanation of the date chosen is December 25 was the Christianising of the dies solis invicti nati (day of the birth of the unconquered sun), a popular holiday in the Roman Empire that celebrated the winter solstice as a symbol of the resurgence of the sun.

    Again according to Britannica - "None of the contemporary Christmas customs have their origin in theological or liturgical affirmations, and most are of fairly recent date."

    The practice of giving gifts, which goes back to the 15th century, contributed to the view that Christmas was a secular holiday focused on family and friends, and this was one of the reasons the Puritans who went to America banned the celebration of Christmas (together with the theatre, dancing, the book of common prayer, etc).

    So it's probably not surprising that Christmas has become a mostly secular holiday (with loads of help from advertising and commercial interests).

    And Easter smacks of a pagan "fertility rights of spring " holiday. Eggs, bunnies , etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by donttread View Post
    And Easter smacks of a pagan "fertility rights of spring " holiday. Eggs, bunnies , etc.
    It was. The Catholic Church hijacked all the Pagan holidays in order to avoid being boring, i.e., Bread and Circe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by donttread View Post
    And Easter smacks of a pagan "fertility rights of spring " holiday. Eggs, bunnies , etc.
    Easter has absolutely nothing to do any pagan feast. I heard the graduation rates are low in your depressed region. I can believe it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MisterVeritis View Post
    Was Rome, at any point in its history "Christian"?
    I think you missed his point. Completely.

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    Ethereal wrote, "No true Christian would support this murderous empire. Those who defend it are like the servants of Rome."

    To which I replied, "
    Was Rome, at any point in its history "Christian"?

    Quote Originally Posted by donttread View Post
    I think you missed his point. Completely.
    I believe he was implying that no true Christian would support the US. Those who do are like those who defended Rome. I believe he meant the Roman's were not Christians. However, the last 150 years before Rome fell she was considered to be a Christian empire.

    Now you tell me what Ethereal meant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    I don't really need anything, so I don't want gifts.
    Oi! Don't do away with Chrissie presents - I want gifts. It's OK for you people with squillions of dollars/pounds/euros - but I don't have any money, so my birthday and Christmas are like quite a big deal for me. I'm hoping Father Christmas can fit a killer games rig into his bag (I've already seen the one I want, and have been throwing around wild hints for the past months). It's the only reason I put up with all the other **** at Christmas time.

    What - me greedy and commercially minded? You bet!
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    Quote Originally Posted by William View Post
    Oi! Don't do away with Chrissie presents - I want gifts. It's OK for you people with squillions of dollars/pounds/euros - but I don't have any money, so my birthday and Christmas are like quite a big deal for me. I'm hoping Father Christmas can fit a killer games rig into his bag (I've already seen the one I want, and have been throwing around wild hints for the past months). It's the only reason I put up with all the other **** at Christmas time.

    What - me greedy and commercially minded? You bet!
    It meant something to me when I was growing up. But now if I see something I want I get it. If I can't afford it, nobody is going to gift it to me anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by roadmaster View Post
    It was founded on Christian laws. If it wasn't you wouldn't have the rights you have left. Is it now, no far from it.

    Throughout history most organized religions tended to be pretty restrictive and not know for "rights promotion".

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