Census confirms: 63 percent of ‘non-citizens’ on welfare, 4.6 million households

[Chris]

I like Switzerland's policy: "Regulations promulgated by the law, which became effective this month, prevent immigrants who have received welfare in the past three years from being granted the vaunted status of “citizen” until they have paid the money back to the government." https://www.thenewamerican.com/world...or-citizenship

[Peter1469]

If you bucket carriers of hatred don't believe PolitiFact, try the US Chamber of Commerce.

https://www.uschamber.com/sites/defa...port_final.pdf

For instance, the Urban Institute concluded that immigrant families are less likely to use the SupplementalNutrition Assistance Program, or SNAP (commonly referred to as “food stamps”), than native-born families.While more than two-thirds of children in poor families with U.S.-born parents received SNAP in 2008 and2009, less than half of children in poor families with foreign-born parents received SNAP in the same years.85Similarly, 18 percent of children with native-born parents used TANF, compared to 12 percent of children withimmigrant parents.86 Notably, children in poor families with native parents are more likely to have public healthinsurance coverage than those with immigrant parents.

One can make their points without being an ass. Wouldn't you agree?

[Peter1469]

I like Switzerland's policy: "Regulations promulgated by the law, which became effective this month, prevent immigrants who have received welfare in the past three years from being granted the vaunted status of “citizen” until they have paid the money back to the government." https://www.thenewamerican.com/world...or-citizenship

Great idea.

[Common]

If you bucket carriers of hatred don't believe PolitiFact, try the US Chamber of Commerce.

https://www.uschamber.com/sites/defa...port_final.pdf

For instance, the Urban Institute concluded that immigrant families are less likely to use the SupplementalNutrition Assistance Program, or SNAP (commonly referred to as “food stamps”), than native-born families.While more than two-thirds of children in poor families with U.S.-born parents received SNAP in 2008 and2009, less than half of children in poor families with foreign-born parents received SNAP in the same years.85Similarly, 18 percent of children with native-born parents used TANF, compared to 12 percent of children withimmigrant parents.86 Notably, children in poor families with native parents are more likely to have public healthinsurance coverage than those with immigrant parents.

Yes I know illegal immigrants cost nothing and if it werent for them we would be in a massive depression and we wouldnt have any fruits or vegetables

I believe you

[Peter1469]

This article puts 72% of Cali immigrants on welfare


It is probably based on the same study above, just focusing on Cali.

More than 7-in-10 households headed by immigrants in the state of California are on taxpayer-funded welfare, a new study reveals.

The latest Census Bureau data analyzed by the Center for Immigration Studies (CIS) finds that about 72 percent of households headed by noncitizens and immigrants use one or more forms of taxpayer-funded welfare programs in California — the number one immigrant-receiving state in the U.S.


Meanwhile, only about 35 percent of households headed by native-born Americans use welfare in California.

[Common]

One can make their points without being an ass. Wouldn't you agree?

Most can not all

[Common]

If you bucket carriers of hatred don't believe PolitiFact, try the US Chamber of Commerce.

https://www.uschamber.com/sites/defa...port_final.pdf

For instance, the Urban Institute concluded that immigrant families are less likely to use the SupplementalNutrition Assistance Program, or SNAP (commonly referred to as “food stamps”), than native-born families.While more than two-thirds of children in poor families with U.S.-born parents received SNAP in 2008 and2009, less than half of children in poor families with foreign-born parents received SNAP in the same years.85Similarly, 18 percent of children with native-born parents used TANF, compared to 12 percent of children withimmigrant parents.86 Notably, children in poor families with native parents are more likely to have public healthinsurance coverage than those with immigrant parents.

Yanno zero you always sound more full of hate, than anyone you constantly accuse of it. Do you realize that actually cancels you out and makes your rants worth zero

[Agent Zero]

I like Switzerland's policy: "Regulations promulgated by the law, which became effective this month, prevent immigrants who have received welfare in the past three years from being granted the vaunted status of “citizen” until they have paid the money back to the government." https://www.thenewamerican.com/world...or-citizenship

I like Switzerland's policy when it's not taken from a libertarian blog from the John Birch Society and from an article the author states "An Austrian article written in German and translated into English by this author sets out the significant impediments to immigrants who seek asylum"

Of course, he goes on to note a particular reason for the impediments: "for the sake of banking Swiss francs."

So this has nothing to do with the refugees or other immigrants coming to Switzerland. It has to do with the Trump types hiding their money in Swiss banks. But nice try...

The truth about Swiss immigration is far different than here. They actually help their refugees. This is actually from Switzerland, not a silly libertarian blog...

https://lenews.ch/2018/01/11/the-number-of-people-on-welfare-continues-to-rise-in-switzerland/

Rates of those receiving government aid varied significantly by canton, ranging from 0.8% in Appenzell Innerrhoden to 7.4% in Neuchâtel. Other cantons with higher than average rates include: Basel-City (6.3%), Geneva (5.7%), Vaud (4.9%) and Bern (4.2%). Zurich’s rate (3.2%) was slightly below the national average.
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But what do they do? They care, as opposed to hate...

The Swiss government is working on measures to get more of these people integrated into the workforce to reduce pressure on the welfare system.
In 2015, Switzerland spent nearly CHF 8 billion on welfare, close to 12% of GDP , and around CHF 1,600 per employed worker.
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https://lenews.ch/2016/01/26/bern-wa...ee-work-rules/


The Swiss minister of Justice Simonetta Sommaruga wants refugees better integrated into the Swiss job market. Under proposed changes the special 10% tax currently applied to those on certain refugee visas will go. In addition, procedures for employing refugees will be simplified.

© Monkey Business Images | Dreamstime.com

The Swiss Federal Council (Cabinet) will submit these proposals, designed to remove obstacles restricting access to jobs, to Parliament.
Currently refugees granted provisional status and N permits must pay a special tax of 10% for ten years or up to a maximum of CHF 15,000. This sum is designed to cover the costs of processing an asylum request.
The idea behind the changes is to give up the extra tax revenue to motivate refugees to work.
The changes were announced in December by the Federal Council and should arrive in Parliament by March.
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And the doors are opening up even more...but there's one thing similar between the US and Switzerland. They work.

https://lenews.ch/2016/04/25/10-fact...al-immigrants/


9. Nearly 9 out of 10 work

Most who entered the country without the right documents came for work. Living in Switzerland long term without work and a visa is not really a viable option says the report.

© Monkey Business Images | Dreamstime.com

Rates of employment among undocumented residents were highest in French and Italian-speaking Switzerland (90%). In German-speaking Switzerland 85% were estimated to have work. The overall rate of employment of undocumented adults across the country as a whole was 86%.

[Agent Zero]

Yes, yes, yes...I know there's not much similarity between the huge US and tiny Switzerland. But I'm not the one who brought it up...

[Peter1469]

Is that why the Swiss banned new minarets?

I like Switzerland's policy when it's not taken from a libertarian blog from the John Birch Society and from an article the author states "An Austrian article written in German and translated into English by this author sets out the significant impediments to immigrants who seek asylum"

Of course, he goes on to note a particular reason for the impediments: "for the sake of banking Swiss francs."

So this has nothing to do with the refugees or other immigrants coming to Switzerland. It has to do with the Trump types hiding their money in Swiss banks. But nice try...

The truth about Swiss immigration is far different than here. They actually help their refugees. This is actually from Switzerland, not a silly libertarian blog...

https://lenews.ch/2018/01/11/the-number-of-people-on-welfare-continues-to-rise-in-switzerland/

Rates of those receiving government aid varied significantly by canton, ranging from 0.8% in Appenzell Innerrhoden to 7.4% in Neuchâtel. Other cantons with higher than average rates include: Basel-City (6.3%), Geneva (5.7%), Vaud (4.9%) and Bern (4.2%). Zurich’s rate (3.2%) was slightly below the national average.
=====================

But what do they do? They care, as opposed to hate...

The Swiss government is working on measures to get more of these people integrated into the workforce to reduce pressure on the welfare system.
In 2015, Switzerland spent nearly CHF 8 billion on welfare, close to 12% of GDP , and around CHF 1,600 per employed worker.
================

https://lenews.ch/2016/01/26/bern-wa...ee-work-rules/


The Swiss minister of Justice Simonetta Sommaruga wants refugees better integrated into the Swiss job market. Under proposed changes the special 10% tax currently applied to those on certain refugee visas will go. In addition, procedures for employing refugees will be simplified.

© Monkey Business Images | Dreamstime.com

The Swiss Federal Council (Cabinet) will submit these proposals, designed to remove obstacles restricting access to jobs, to Parliament.
Currently refugees granted provisional status and N permits must pay a special tax of 10% for ten years or up to a maximum of CHF 15,000. This sum is designed to cover the costs of processing an asylum request.
The idea behind the changes is to give up the extra tax revenue to motivate refugees to work.
The changes were announced in December by the Federal Council and should arrive in Parliament by March.
===================

And the doors are opening up even more...but there's one thing similar between the US and Switzerland. They work.

https://lenews.ch/2016/04/25/10-fact...al-immigrants/


9. Nearly 9 out of 10 work

Most who entered the country without the right documents came for work. Living in Switzerland long term without work and a visa is not really a viable option says the report.

© Monkey Business Images | Dreamstime.com

Rates of employment among undocumented residents were highest in French and Italian-speaking Switzerland (90%). In German-speaking Switzerland 85% were estimated to have work. The overall rate of employment of undocumented adults across the country as a whole was 86%.