LTG Flynn

[Beevee]

The floor is falling in and there you all are under it, still believing it to be made of paper mache.

[Jeb!]

Democrats in 2017 swore that Flynn committed treason, and now they're (at least claiming to be) happy that Flynn isn't going to jail? That figures, because every "progressive" hates America.

[Tahuyaman]

Democrats in 2017 swore that Flynn committed treason, and now they're (at least claiming to be) happy that Flynn isn't going to jail? That figures, because every "progressive" hates America.

They like him now because they think he gave Mueller what he needs to indict Trump. They'll go back calling him a traitor when they finally figure out that he didn't have the goods on Trump.

[Tahuyaman]

The floor is falling in and there you all are under it, still believing it to be made of paper mache.

Ok..........

[Jeb!]

They like him now because they think he gave Mueller what he needs to indict Trump. They'll go back calling him a traitor when they finally figure out that he didn't have the goods on Trump.

Michael Flynn totally flipped, I know it because I watched MSNBC which always tells me what I want to hear, which is why Flynn's son does nothing but make fun of Democrats on Twitter 24/7.

[Safety]

They like him now because they think he gave Mueller what he needs to indict Trump. They'll go back calling him a traitor when they finally figure out that he didn't have the goods on Trump.

Making asinine statements that have no relevance to what actually happened, is trolling. Point out one post that even had the semblance of someone “liking” Flynn.

[DGUtley]

I haven't been following this but it seems to me that they went after Flynn b/c he worked on Trump's campaign - for a brief period of time. Same with that Greek guy, the taxi charge guy and I think there was one or two others. This is troubling to me -- the power of the government to bankrupt someone for political purposes under the guise of law enforcement.

[Safety]

It wasn’t like it was some random people they pulled out of a hat, they were all tied to the Trump campaign. Maybe if they didn’t lie, they would not be in trouble, isn’t that the narrative that should be discussed?

I think it is absolutely ironic that the man that chanted “lock her up”, based upon no facts or trial, is the one that was facing prison time, but even that is superseded by the “nonexistent” Trump supporters that followed along with the mantra like we are some sort of banana republic, only now to be so concerned about someone being bankrupt due to this incident or having the perception of them being wrongly targeted.

If this wasn’t real and I was not living in this moment, I would swear this was a Tom Clancy novel.

[DGUtley]

It wasn’t like it was some random people they pulled out of a hat, they were all tied to the Trump campaign. Maybe if they didn’t lie, they would not be in trouble, isn’t that the narrative that should be discussed? I think it is absolutely ironic that the man that chanted “lock her up”, based upon no facts or trial, is the one that was facing prison time, but even that is superseded by the “nonexistent” Trump supporters that followed along with the mantra like we are some sort of banana republic, only now to be so concerned about someone being bankrupt due to this incident or having the perception of them being wrongly targeted. If this wasn’t real and I was not living in this moment, I would swear this was a Tom Clancy novel.

First of all, I never once ever chanted: "Lock her up" -- I did agree that if she broke the law she should be charged. I do agree that if Flynn broke the law he should've been charged. It just seems here (and admittedly I don't know all the details) that this has been over the top investigated as to him and bankrupted him. It isn't that complicated or difficult. I know how this goes -- this constant demanding of meetings and statements and papers, it is incredibly demanding and expensive. Frequently, it is done solely to leverage, pressure and make costly. When Mordor does it, I think it can be a violation of due process.

Secondly, it seems here that there's no crime of collusion (it's not illegal for Trump to have colluded with Russia - I've said that since this started [I'm not the only one]. Politically stupid, yes, but not criminal) but they went digging for dirt on these people to attempt to find any crime on Trump. In other words, there's no crime here but to get to Target A, let's start looking at Targets BCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ b/c they were friends with A, hoping to find a crime (anything) so we can leverage them against A. That is troubling b/c I think you have to start with a crime rather than start with a target. I think that's a due process issue. I can guarantee you that if you asked me - did you ever send an email to X about Y and I said "no" you could probably find an email over 31 years that calls into question that comment. AH-HA!! Now you have me on perjury and can get to Common. That should trouble all of us. Side note: On the papadopolus thing -- several other prosecutors looked at it and decided not to indict but Mueller did to leverage the Trump thing. Doesn't that trouble you? Remember, never take power for yourself that you aren't willing to give to your worst enemy.

Thirdly, I know Trump can be an $#@!, but he's not a tinhorn dictator. He hasn't even remotely exceeded his executive order authority (Unlike Obama) IMHO. He has stayed well within the Constitution. Oh yes, he's made rumblings and statements of such but that's his game. His Schtick. He's done none of it. Banana republic? I truly honestly in my heart of heart believed that when Obama was issuing his executive orders. I understand you disagree.

[Peter1469]

I think when the FBI agents who interviewed Flynn say that in their opinion Flynn did not lie Mueller has a serious credibility problem for charging Flynn with lying.

It is too bad that Flynn did not have the resources or outside help to fight this. The defenses first witnesses would be those FBI agents. Can anyone say that testimony would not torpedo Mueller's case?