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    Oldest strain of plague found in 5,000-year-old human remains




    Scientists have unearthed an ancient strain of plague that may have had a hand in wiping out some of our early ancestors.

    A young woman who died 5,000 years ago was struck down by a previously unknown form of the disease, which has killed around 500 million people across its 12,000-year history.


    The plague likely spread among ancient European settlements via traders traveling from camp to camp, scientists said.


    Its deadly advance across the continent may have contributed to the decline of these settlements seen at the start of the early Bronze Age around 3,000 BC.


    “Plague is maybe one of the deadliest bacteria that has ever existed for humans,” said study author Dr. Simon Rasmussen, of the University of Copenhagen.


    “The kind of analyses we do here let us go back through time and look at how this pathogen that’s had such a huge effect on us evolved.”


    https://nypost.com/2018/12/06/oldest...human-remains/
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    I found this interesting:

    Researchers said the new strain may have played a hand in the collapse of Neolithic “mega-settlements,” ancient European communities that boasted up to 20,000 inhabitants.
    I didn't realize that they had communities that large.

    That many so close with little to no sanitation attacks rodents- and the fleas on the rodents carry the plague.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    I found this interesting:
    I didn't realize that they had communities that large.

    That many so close with little to no sanitation attacks rodents- and the fleas on the rodents carry the plague.
    I think what happened is the mega-settlements were taken over by Democrats who let people crap in the streets...
    Call your state legislators and insist they approve the Article V convention of States to propose amendments.


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    Quote Originally Posted by MisterVeritis View Post
    I think what happened is the mega-settlements were taken over by Democrats who let people crap in the streets...
    Exactly, because in 3000 bc our political parties were well established?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jigglepete View Post
    Exactly, because in 3000 bc our political parties were well established?
    Exactly!
    Call your state legislators and insist they approve the Article V convention of States to propose amendments.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Common View Post



    Scientists have unearthed an ancient strain of plague that may have had a hand in wiping out some of our early ancestors.

    A young woman who died 5,000 years ago was struck down by a previously unknown form of the disease, which has killed around 500 million people across its 12,000-year history.


    The plague likely spread among ancient European settlements via traders traveling from camp to camp, scientists said.


    Its deadly advance across the continent may have contributed to the decline of these settlements seen at the start of the early Bronze Age around 3,000 BC.


    “Plague is maybe one of the deadliest bacteria that has ever existed for humans,” said study author Dr. Simon Rasmussen, of the University of Copenhagen.


    “The kind of analyses we do here let us go back through time and look at how this pathogen that’s had such a huge effect on us evolved.”


    https://nypost.com/2018/12/06/oldest...human-remains/

    And we STILL grew to 7 plus billion after a major population hit in the 1400's! Makes you wonder had there been no plague , how many of us would their be? Or would we have triggered an even nastier epidemic?

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    Quote Originally Posted by donttread View Post
    And we STILL grew to 7 plus billion after a major population hit in the 1400's! Makes you wonder had there been no plague , how many of us would their be? Or would we have triggered an even nastier epidemic?
    We can have another deadly pathogen at any time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by donttread View Post
    And we STILL grew to 7 plus billion after a major population hit in the 1400's! Makes you wonder had there been no plague , how many of us would their be? Or would we have triggered an even nastier epidemic?
    The population rose precipitously only in the last two centuries.
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    Quote Originally Posted by donttread View Post
    And we STILL grew to 7 plus billion after a major population hit in the 1400's! Makes you wonder had there been no plague , how many of us would their be? Or would we have triggered an even nastier epidemic?
    Microbiologists are working on one that will either overcome their well-intended effort or escape their workplace.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister D View Post
    The population rose precipitously only in the last two centuries.
    Since the industrial revolution. Along with the skyrocketing population, we also see a very large increase in the quality of lives for much of that population. Most of that increase is seen in the West and other developed nations. But even in the developing world, standard of living is at or a bit better than the preindustrial age world.
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