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    James Field convicted of murder for Charlottsville.

    Did the US courts get it right - or was he acting in self defence, as his lawyers claimed?

    A white nationalist who drove his car into a crowd protesting against a white supremacist rally in Charlottesville, Virginia, last year, killing one of the demonstrators, has been found guilty of first-degree murder and nine other counts.

    The jury deliberated for about seven hours before convicting James Fields, 21, of all charges stemming from the deadly attack that occurred after police declared an unlawful assembly and cleared a city park of white supremacists gathered for the "Unite the Right" rally.

    The night before, the "Unite the Right" protesters had staged a torchlit march through the nearby University of Virginia campus, chanting racist and anti-Semitic slogans.

    Republican US President Donald Trump was strongly condemned by fellow Republicans as well as Democrats for saying afterward that "both sides" were to blame for the violence.

    Fields was photographed hours before last year's attack carrying a shield with the emblem of a far-right hate group, and people who knew him in high school have said he expressed Nazi sympathies as a student.
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    It was self defense. It doesn't matter to them he had just put in his garmen route to home. He had people attacking his car like what happened in Washington State. This was political, they know he was in danger.

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    I did not hear the evidence that the jury did. But I have spent a lot of time in Chancellorsville because the US Army JAG school is part of the University of Virginia Law School. I lived there during my officers basic course and returned there often for classes and conferences. I often stayed at the Omni Hotel a couple of blocks away at the top of the walking mall (the street where the protest was).

    It looks like this guy was parked on one side of the walking mall and wanted to go home, which was on the other side of the mall. He chose to take a side street that cuts through the walking mall. Which was full of protesters. He could have taken the street that runs parallel to the walking mall in either direction to get around it- it is only around 6 blocks long.

    None of that is proof of guilt, but I do wonder why he would deliberately cut through the protest rather than go around. I would be worried that someone would key my car as I passed.

    Also, the police failed: they should have had all of those side streets that cut through the walking mall blocked.
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    He was looking for trouble is how it appears. First degree murder seems out of place though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    I did not hear the evidence that the jury did. But I have spent a lot of time in Chancellorsville because the US Army JAG school is part of the University of Virginia Law School. I lived there during my officers basic course and returned there often for classes and conferences. I often stayed at the Omni Hotel a couple of blocks away at the top of the walking mall (the street where the protest was).

    It looks like this guy was parked on one side of the walking mall and wanted to go home, which was on the other side of the mall. He chose to take a side street that cuts through the walking mall. Which was full of protesters. He could have taken the street that runs parallel to the walking mall in either direction to get around it- it is only around 6 blocks long.

    None of that is proof of guilt, but I do wonder why he would deliberately cut through the protest rather than go around. I would be worried that someone would key my car as I passed.

    Also, the police failed: they should have had all of those side streets that cut through the walking mall blocked.
    Perhaps the defendant was not as familiar with the urban terrain as you are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MisterVeritis View Post
    Perhaps the defendant was not as familiar with the urban terrain as you are.
    That would be a failure point. Even if you are in a place for the first time, especially for a protest event, you need to at least do a map recon. Best to show up early and get your bearings.
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    Quote Originally Posted by roadmaster View Post
    It was self defense. It doesn't matter to them he had just put in his garmen route to home. He had people attacking his car like what happened in Washington State. This was political, they know he was in danger.
    The guy is a fascist, racist right-wing thug who's getting exactly what he has comin to him. He'll probably get the chair, but like racists in prison will scoop him up and between them and him - they'll work it out...

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    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    The guy is a fascist, racist right-wing thug who's getting exactly what he has comin to him. He'll probably get the chair, but like racists in prison will scoop him up and between them and him - they'll work it out...
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    As for Field, he didn't get what had coming but what the jury decided. The tribe has spoken.

    From what I recall of the events, I have my doubts as to whether it was intentional, whether it was murder. But I didn't hear all the jury heard and will trust them to their decision.
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