Follow the (climate change) money

[Hoosier8]

Again, if this is truly a man-made environmental crisis, then why is the solution wealth redistribution?

Every solution is wealth distribution. Politics.

[Hoosier8]

Confirmed in multiple different ways. I hope you don't try to call if a fraud, because that would really embarrass you, trying to push a conspiracy theory that's been debunked for so long.

You are joking of course. There is a reason the IPCC dropped it.

[Chris]

Every solution is wealth distribution. Politics.

Exactly, right on down to that little 15yo girl who addressed the UN, here: http://thepoliticalforums.com/thread...ses-UN-Amazing!!! Where the liberals were besides themselve in adolation over her knowledge of science and solutions. Posted there, here is my transcription/paraphrsse of here words:

I care about climate justice and the living planet.

Our civilization is being sacrificed for the opportunity of a very small number of people to continue making enormous amounts of money.

Our biosphere is being sacrificed so that rich people in countries like mine can live in luxury.

It is the sufferings of the many that pay for the luxuries of the few.

You are stealing the children's furture.

Keep fossil fuels in the ground.

We need to focus on equity [sic, equality].

Change is coming whether you like it or not. The real power belongs to the people.

No science. Brief mention of a solution. 90% your typical liberal/socialist agenda for materialistic equality, an agenda that falsely sees power in the people, the people it does not trust for anything.

[Peter1469]

Confirmed in multiple different ways. I hope you don't try to call if a fraud, because that would really embarrass you, trying to push a conspiracy theory that's been debunked for so long.

lol

[RadioGod]

Think the politicizing of climate change has no effect?

Follow the (climate change) money

Without a doubt, green energy has had trouble taking off in America. When Obama wanted to prioritize solar, I remember he had gave 1 company, I think it was Solyndra, a large subsidy when they promised to produce cheap thin-film solar panels. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solyndra
But this company and it's major investors were all seasoned corporate types in the tech realm, and they never intended to produce anything, it was a subsidy grab. Much like Trump's latest snafu, where he paid a contracting firm 14 million dollars to help hire 7,000 border agents, and the firm got 2 people hired. https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...b08bcb27ebbbc9
This is the kind of thing that goes on continually in our country. It's corporate welfare, it is fraud, and it is theft from the taxpayers. I think it is funny that in your OP, you singled out green energy subsidies for this, in a small-minded attempt to make green energy itself look bad. You need to broaden your viewpoint a bit. This has been a drop in the bucket compared to money that disappears from the Pentagon and military contractors. And other energy industries, like coal, oil, natural gas, and nuclear, to this day they get way more subsidies than solar ever got, and you are strangely silent on that. We spent a couple billion trying to get green energy going. But we spend hundreds of billions every year subsidizing oil.
This is why I call you a retard, Chris. You are too small-minded and obviously promoting little falsehoods as if they are the whole truth. I assume that is what you are either paid to do, or you are totally sucked into a propaganda machine on some alt-media sites who are paid to change your opinion. Either way, it's not becoming of you.

[Chris]

Without a doubt, green energy has had trouble taking off in America. When Obama wanted to prioritize solar, I remember he had gave 1 company, I think it was Solyndra, a large subsidy when they promised to produce cheap thin-film solar panels. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solyndra
But this company and it's major investors were all seasoned corporate types in the tech realm, and they never intended to produce anything, it was a subsidy grab. Much like Trump's latest snafu, where he paid a contracting firm 14 million dollars to help hire 7,000 border agents, and the firm got 2 people hired. https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...b08bcb27ebbbc9
This is the kind of thing that goes on continually in our country. It's corporate welfare, it is fraud, and it is theft from the taxpayers. I think it is funny that in your OP, you singled out green energy subsidies for this, in a small-minded attempt to make green energy itself look bad. You need to broaden your viewpoint a bit. This has been a drop in the bucket compared to money that disappears from the Pentagon and military contractors. And other energy industries, like coal, oil, natural gas, and nuclear, to this day they get way more subsidies than solar ever got, and you are strangely silent on that. We spent a couple billion trying to get green energy going. But we spend hundreds of billions every year subsidizing oil.
This is why I call you a retard, Chris. You are too small-minded and obviously promoting little falsehoods as if they are the whole truth. I assume that is what you are either paid to do, or you are totally sucked into a propaganda machine on some alt-media sites who are paid to change your opinion. Either way, it's not becoming of you.

Then the government should be prohibited from these acts of corporate cronyism.

[RadioGod]

Then the government should be prohibited from these acts of corporate cronyism.

Then stop defending the government when they do this sh*t. And stop defending corporations that bribe officials with campaign cash and million-dollar "consulting" jobs.

[Chris]

Then stop defending the government when they do this sh*t. And stop defending corporations that bribe officials with campaign cash and million-dollar "consulting" jobs.

I'm an anarchist, remember? Nor do I defend corporations. But to solve problems of cronyism and corruption, you must regulate the government, limit its power, remove its appeal as a target for rent seekers.

[Captdon]

Of course it has an effect. The bribe money flows in massive quantities to the Republican party, on the condition that they oppose action. Follow the money.

None of that money goes to bribe climate scientists, so the actual science is unaffected by money. Scientists don't get paid to produce a certain result. They get paid the same no matter what. Scientists don't get additional money in their pocket if they get a grant. They have no monetary motivation to fix the results. I mean, the denier side tries to bribe them to lie, but they refuse those bribes, giving them even more credibility.

As far as tax breaks and studies go, it's the job of good government to prevent environmental catastrophe and plan for the far future, given that the free market fails so badly at such things.

Someone should do a study on you.

[Captdon]

Confirmed in multiple different ways. I hope you don't try to call if a fraud, because that would really embarrass you, trying to push a conspiracy theory that's been debunked for so long.

It and you are frauds.