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    The problem with today's nationalism, as I see it, is it's ruled by mass democracy that aims to change if not tear down society and leave not let us say social safety net between the individual and the state.
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    Liberals were always nationalists. Liberal and the left are two different things. The left has co-opted the liberal moniker. The left are against everything past liberals were for. The left is against free speech, pride in country, and for racism by promoting segregation in colleges and promoting hate of whites.
    When Donald Trump said to protest “peacefully”, he meant violence.

    When he told protesters to “go home”, he meant stay for an insurrection.

    And when he told Brad Raffensperger to implement “whatever the correct legal remedy is”, he meant fraud.

    War is peace.

    Freedom is slavery.

    Ignorance is strength.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister D View Post
    This does tie in to what Nisbett argued in so far as nationalism gives social cohesion and solidarity a decidedly political stamp.
    It ties in, too, to what Sunic discusses in Against Democracy and Equality when looking at the intellectual roots of the European New Right and their reactions against mass democracy and egalitarianism, but true, I derive much of my criticism from Nisbet's Quest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister D View Post
    That is the definition in the present. Sadly, it's probably just being simplified to appeal to a North American audience. I also find it amusing that free marketers are condemning a "globalism" they are the primary driver of. Not a knock at you. Just a general comment on these people who consider themselves opponents of globalism but demand the free circulation of money, goods and human beings.
    In reality, nationalism is just a smaller version of globalism. Nationalists and globalists have exactly the same pretensions only on a different scale. Worse still, as much as our latter day nationalists are loathe to admit it the time of the nation is waning. The nation state is obsolete. It is unable to meet contemporary economic and political challenges. Recourse to the nation must be temporary. I too support "nationalism" only in so far as it currently presents an obstacle to globalism but that's a stop gap measure. It's not going to be effective in the long run.
    Today's nationalism I see more as taking a strong stand as a player global politics because the economic stakes are so high.
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