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Thread: We must end Citizens United and then some!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ripmeister View Post
    Thanks DG. I understand this. The problem I have with it is that it seems to sanction the idea that some have "more" free speech and "influence" based on the size of their wallet. I don't doubt the argument made by SCOTUS and the precedents that lead to the decision but that doesn't mean something about it just doesn't smell right.
    Bulldoze "K" Street and publicly fund elections.

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    Quote Originally Posted by donttread View Post
    Bulldoze "K" Street and publicly fund elections.
    Why is the solution always to go after the rent seekers rather than those in power?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    Why is the solution always to go after the rent seekers rather than those in power?
    Who's in power?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    Why is the solution always to go after the rent seekers rather than those in power?
    That's where the publicly funded elections come in . Give say 5 parties 25,000,000 a piece for the presidential campaign for example . No outside money. Then "the two parties" and career politicians could not media blitz their way into office and the voters would have to form their own opinions . It would greatly limit megacorp ownership of government

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    Quote Originally Posted by zachroidott View Post
    Who's in power?

    The donkephant and it's owners the megacorps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zachroidott View Post
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    The government.
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    Quote Originally Posted by donttread View Post
    That's where the publicly funded elections come in . Give say 5 parties 25,000,000 a piece for the presidential campaign for example . No outside money. Then "the two parties" and career politicians could not media blitz their way into office and the voters would have to form their own opinions . It would greatly limit megacorp ownership of government
    The problem is who it goes to, the corrupt politicians and bureaucrats who sell us out. While I criticize coporations for using political means over economic means to get what they want, the heart of the problem is a government with too much power.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Just AnotherPerson View Post
    Who is this comment to? Is it me?
    I asked you to tell me what rights and freedoms you lost. You can't answer that so why worry about anyone else.
    Liberals are a clear and present danger to our nation
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    Quote Originally Posted by MisterVeritis View Post
    The courts gave themselves a power not mentioned in the Constitution. Now we have judicial tyranny. Is it possible to fix this?
    Amend the Constitution.
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    Quote Originally Posted by donttread View Post
    No but you could sue it's owners and actors. They'd be more vigilant if their personal assets were on the line. And better yet, corporations would probably be smaller.
    Then there would be no such thing as a corporation and very little employment that paid much.

    If I give you money to start a business how can i be responsible for what you do?
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