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    Quote Originally Posted by Captdon View Post
    Very humorous. Republicans are going to vote for Trump. He has an approval among them running at 90%. He will get the majority of the Independents who won't ever vote for a socialist. That's all the Democrats will nominate.

    Trump will be President for six more years. Hate to burst your bubble but reality is a heartless $#@!.

    It depends on who runs as a third part candidates. This could be a year where that candidate can attract enough support to change the election. Like when Perot got enough support to deny George HW Bush reelection.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tahuyaman View Post
    It depends on who runs as a third part candidates. This could be a year where that candidate can attract enough support to change the election. Like when Perot got enough support to deny George HW Bush reelection.
    If a 3rd party harms the GOP it is a GOP issue- people leave them for good reasons. And I will be damned to hell before I vote for trash to keep worse trash out of office.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    If a 3rd party harms the GOP it is a GOP issue- people leave them for good reasons. And I will be damned to hell before I vote for trash to keep worse trash out of office.
    I agree. However, you can't assume a president will be reelected when he has no named opponant. Things change when the opponant is an actual person with stated views.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Standing Wolf View Post
    I still have my doubts whether a self-identified Socialist is electable in a national election in America. I understand the Progressives' concerns, but practically speaking - Sanders will be 79 years old in 2020, among other considerations. A younger, less controversial alternative is bound to emerge in the next year or so. But what Progressives need to understand and appreciate is that getting out the vote for whoever the Democratic candidate eventually turns out to be needs to be the Number One priority, even if he or she wasn't their first choice.

    Assuming that Trump is still in office in November of 2020 and is the Republican candidate - neither of which is a given, at this point - every level-headed American of voting age, regardless of their political beliefs or affiliations, will need to take a good, hard look at what they have and what they want in a President and make their selection based on what is best for the country as a whole...not on who shouts the loudest, provides a good laugh, makes dumb promises or appeals to their worse natures. The Democratic candidate in 2020 is going to have to appeal to Independent voters - even right-leaning ones - and Republicans who are sufficiently embarrassed and disappointed by Trump that they will cross Party lines for a better alternative.
    I’m not so sure there is a viable alternative to Bernie out there, for the democratic socialist crowd. Closest I can think of, in terms of candidates with a reasonable chance of running, would be Jeff Merkley or Tulsi Gabbard, neither of whom are necessarily that much like Bernie, but each of whom supported Bernie over Clinton. I think the idealist supporters of Bernie will stick with him, age be damned.

    But I also think Bernie’s coalition of voters will be much smaller than last time around, because a good many of them supported Bernie not because they were democratic socialists themselves, but because he simply wasn’t Clinton. Now that we’ll have 10, 20 candidates in the Dem race, I can only imagine Bernie’s supporters will be a much smaller crowd.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    Bernie top progressive candidate for 2020

    Bernie is the leading progressive candidate, but will he live that long? The younger generations seem to want to move on from the Boomer and older generations, yet Bernie has captured their hearts.
    As long as wealth keeps moving up and upward mobility down the socialist will have a foothold. a foothold provided by those who hate them most

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    Quote Originally Posted by donttread View Post
    As long as wealth keeps moving up and upward mobility down the socialist will have a foothold. a foothold provided by those who hate them most
    ...people like you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by donttread View Post
    As long as wealth keeps moving up and upward mobility down the socialist will have a foothold. a foothold provided by those who hate them most
    The trend is for mobility to go up, not down.
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    Young folks like Bernie because he's a "Boomer" that actually understands the issues important to us and doesn't just give them lipservice. Milennials aren't ageist, we just want someone to actually give a $#@! about what we give a $#@! about, and Bernie has shown he does.
    "A mature person is one who does not think only in absolutes, who is able to be objective even when deeply stirred emotionally, who has learned that there is both good and bad in all people and all things, and who walks humbly and deals charitably with the circumstances of life, knowing that in this world no one is all-knowing and therefore all of us need both love and charity."
    - Eleanor Roosevelt (1884-1962), American social activist and First Lady of the United States

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