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    So there is a discussion going on where some members are passionately kissing Israel's ass. It's quite bizarre actually but I keep hearing that Israel is a great ally of ours.

    Why? Are they such a great ally?

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    I haven't seen anyone "kissing Israel's ass". I have seen you engaging in hyperbolic bull$#@!, but that is normal.

    Israel is the only real functioning democracy in the region. I support them, but not unequivocally. I do so for a couple of reasons.

    First, Israel has proven to be an invaluable ally in the gathering and sharing of intelligence in the Middle East. They have been our eyes and ears on the ground there for a long time.

    Second, Israel is surrounded by enemies. Their refusal to give up despite the odds has earned my respect and admiration.

    Israel is far from perfect, but her positives greatly outweigh the negatives.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cletus View Post
    I haven't seen anyone "kissing Israel's ass". I have seen you engaging in hyperbolic bull$#@!, but that is normal.

    Israel is the only real functioning democracy in the region. I support them, but not unequivocally. I do so for a couple of reasons.

    First, Israel has proven to be an invaluable ally in the gathering and sharing of intelligence in the Middle East. They have been our eyes and ears on the ground there for a long time.

    Second, Israel is surrounded by enemies. Their refusal to give up despite the odds has earned my respect and admiration.

    Israel is far from perfect, but her positives greatly outweigh the negatives.
    Well, you not too observant but the rest of your input has value at least

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cletus View Post
    I haven't seen anyone "kissing Israel's ass". I have seen you engaging in hyperbolic bull$#@!, but that is normal.

    Israel is the only real functioning democracy in the region. I support them, but not unequivocally. I do so for a couple of reasons.

    First, Israel has proven to be an invaluable ally in the gathering and sharing of intelligence in the Middle East. They have been our eyes and ears on the ground there for a long time.

    Second, Israel is surrounded by enemies. Their refusal to give up despite the odds has earned my respect and admiration.

    Israel is far from perfect, but her positives greatly outweigh the negatives.
    Not to mention they are one of our best customers. Israel has regular and open elections with peaceful transitions of power. In a region with failed and failing states. Plus we have received tech from them which is useful for urban warfare.


    Their contributions to US National interests covers a broad spectrum. Israel is also the world leader in the development of unmanned aerial systems. Both for intelligence collection and combat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Not to mention they are one of our best customers. Israel has regular and open elections with peaceful transitions of power. In a region with failed and failing states. Plus we have received tech from them which is useful for urban warfare.


    Their contributions to US National interests covers a broad spectrum. Israel is also the world leader in the development of unmanned aerial systems. Both for intelligence collection and combat.
    Absolutely right.

    Of course, there are some here who will just ignore any facts presented to them.
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    They do $#@! all for us. They act as a cover as a means of justification to keep us in the region, they take our money and weaponry, and they buy our politicians. They negatively effect every American with the exception of those who subscribe to Israeli supremacy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cletus View Post
    Absolutely right.

    Of course, there are some here who will just ignore any facts presented to them.

    Well you got to remember most dump on Israel for winning wars against Arabs. Then just jump on the bandwagon since they can't think of $#@! on their own.


    Oh and because they know deep down that Israel can kick the $#@! out of Iran.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cletus View Post
    I haven't seen anyone "kissing Israel's ass". I have seen you engaging in hyperbolic bull$#@!, but that is normal.

    Israel is the only real functioning democracy in the region. I support them, but not unequivocally. I do so for a couple of reasons.

    First, Israel has proven to be an invaluable ally in the gathering and sharing of intelligence in the Middle East. They have been our eyes and ears on the ground there for a long time.

    Second, Israel is surrounded by enemies. Their refusal to give up despite the odds has earned my respect and admiration.

    Israel is far from perfect, but her positives greatly outweigh the negatives.
    Thought that was a very nice summary.

    Concur.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Xl View Post
    They do $#@! all for us. They act as a cover as a means of justification to keep us in the region, they take our money and weaponry, and they buy our politicians. They negatively effect every American with the exception of those who subscribe to Israeli supremacy.
    Gonna mark you down as: "Not a big fan of Israel"


    Have i got that one right.....??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Obvious View Post
    So there is a discussion going on where some members are passionately kissing Israel's ass. It's quite bizarre actually but I keep hearing that Israel is a great ally of ours.

    Why? Are they such a great ally?

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    They are more like us than anyone else in the region. I think that's about it. Although if we ever accept help and are willing to share the "glory" in these needless wars we fight : They could be devastating fighting partners. In fact had we not stopped them years ago the Iranian nuke program would be the "Iranian what program?" I might enlist if I got to share a fox hole with Gal G! LOL . Nah, way too old to do her justice. You might say that she is out of my "Justice League" !
    But world police do not share glory even with their allies and even when it makes complete sense to!

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