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    Quote Originally Posted by pjohns View Post
    I have never before seen the country so polarized as it is about Donald Trump: Some appear to view him as the very personification of all that is evil--he can do nothing right--whereas others seem to see him as the apotheosis of all that is good--and he can do no wrong.

    Why can't we simply agree that he is a human being--just like the rest of us--and that, like the rest of us, he is sometimes right, and sometimes wrong?

    Personally, I think that he has been right more often than not. But I did not care for his intrusion upon free trade; and his recent dustup with the Fed is not good either, in my opinion.
    We tried to agree that he was just an American citizen, who, through our US Constitution, had the right to run for and win the presidency. Then - he started governing and his cabal and every one of his hundreds of habitual lies started to be undone, yet he continues to lie and undermine the country AND our constitution and laws.

    So, what part of that demonstrable evidence: just read the news papers, do you not see as a problem?
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    Quote Originally Posted by pjohns View Post
    I have never before seen the country so polarized as it is about Donald Trump: Some appear to view him as the very personification of all that is evil--he can do nothing right--whereas others seem to see him as the apotheosis of all that is good--and he can do no wrong.

    Why can't we simply agree that he is a human being--just like the rest of us--and that, like the rest of us, he is sometimes right, and sometimes wrong?

    Personally, I think that he has been right more often than not. But I did not care for his intrusion upon free trade; and his recent dustup with the Fed is not good either, in my opinion.
    There is an old proverb that states that you cannot make a silk purse of a sow's ear. Trump's history is a rather sordid tale of greed and discreditable behavior that left other people the poorer for knowing him or doing business with him. I will not go into the more salacious aspects. Suffice it to say that he is a salesman and the ends do not justify the means.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Who View Post
    There is an old proverb that states that you cannot make a silk purse of a sow's ear. Trump's history is a rather sordid tale of greed and discreditable behavior that left other people the poorer for knowing him or doing business with him. I will not go into the more salacious aspects. Suffice it to say that he is a salesman and the ends do not justify the means.
    There's another, you can put lipstick on a pig, but it's still a pig, like the smooth-talking politicians you admire.
    Edmund Burke: "In vain you tell me that Artificial Government is good, but that I fall out only with the Abuse. The Thing! the Thing itself is the Abuse!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by nathanbforrest45 View Post
    Donald Trump is first and foremost NOT A POLITICIAN. He is a highly successful business man. He does not play by the rules of the Political Class and that is something many of us have been clamoring for for quite a long time. He has a bad habit of saying what he means and only what he means and not using weasel words that can be construed 10 different ways.

    Tough beans that the elitest find him with dirty finger nails. Most of us like him, respect him and would invite him over for a Sunday sit down dinner.
    But would you share a jail cell with him?

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    Quote Originally Posted by alexa View Post
    Some of us prefer not to have a racist grifter as President, and some of us, like you, like to make excuses for the inexcusable.

    Go figure.
    Thats good, because we don't have a racist for a president now. This racist accusation is without any merit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tahuyaman View Post
    Thats good, because we don't have a racist for a president now. This racist accusation is without any merit.

    But to some on the left, to be a Republican, or on the right, means you're a racist...of a fascist, or both. It doesn't mean anything, just a way to self-righteously moralize.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    There's another, you can put lipstick on a pig, but it's still a pig, like the smooth-talking politicians you admire.
    I'd rather put my faith into someone who hasn't got a history of ripping people off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    But to some on the left, to be a Republican, or on the right, means you're a racist...of a fascist, or both. It doesn't mean anything, just a way to self-righteously moralize.
    The republicans I know believe in fiscal responsibility, our allies and our military. Those who have chosen to stay with this President do not believe in any of those things. It's difficult for me to consider them true republicans. I'm quite baffled by the whole thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by alexa View Post
    Some of us prefer not to have a racist grifter as President, and some of us, like you, like to make excuses for the inexcusable.

    Go figure.
    Some of us want the US to stay ours and some of you want to give it away. I'd settle for you leaving a place you hate so much but...
    Liberals are a clear and present danger to our freedom and our society and our morals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pjohns View Post
    To describe the man as "a racist grifter"--and to breezily dismiss all who do not agree with you, as "excuse" makers--is hardly a reasonable (or well-reasoned) response...
    It wasn't meant to be.
    Liberals are a clear and present danger to our freedom and our society and our morals.

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