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    Why is everyone so polarized as concerning President Trump?

    I have never before seen the country so polarized as it is about Donald Trump: Some appear to view him as the very personification of all that is evil--he can do nothing right--whereas others seem to see him as the apotheosis of all that is good--and he can do no wrong.

    Why can't we simply agree that he is a human being--just like the rest of us--and that, like the rest of us, he is sometimes right, and sometimes wrong?

    Personally, I think that he has been right more often than not. But I did not care for his intrusion upon free trade; and his recent dustup with the Fed is not good either, in my opinion.

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    Some of us prefer not to have a racist grifter as President, and some of us, like you, like to make excuses for the inexcusable.

    Go figure.
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    Trump is a total piece of dirt

    Payments to porn stars should be a starting clue but wingnuts have their heads so far up Trump's ass they'll never see it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alexa View Post
    Some of us prefer not to have a racist grifter as President, and some of us, like you, like to make excuses for the inexcusable.

    Go figure.
    To describe the man as "a racist grifter"--and to breezily dismiss all who do not agree with you, as "excuse" makers--is hardly a reasonable (or well-reasoned) response...

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    Trump was pissed at he Fed because increases in the prime cause his legitimate loan payments to go up.

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...million-a-year

    I don't know about his terms with Putin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pjohns View Post
    I have never before seen the country so polarized as it is about Donald Trump: Some appear to view him as the very personification of all that is evil--he can do nothing right--whereas others seem to see him as the apotheosis of all that is good--and he can do no wrong.

    Why can't we simply agree that he is a human being--just like the rest of us--and that, like the rest of us, he is sometimes right, and sometimes wrong?

    Personally, I think that he has been right more often than not. But I did not care for his intrusion upon free trade; and his recent dustup with the Fed is not good either, in my opinion.

    Exactly. I find him lacking in economic knowledge but just right when it comes to court nominations.


    Said the same yesterday about Reagan, that we shouldn't hold him up as a God, he was just a man who did good but made mistakes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pjohns View Post
    To describe the man as "a racist grifter"--and to breezily dismiss all who do not agree with you, as "excuse" makers--is hardly a reasonable (or well-reasoned) response...
    Au contraire, it's both reasonable and well reasoned.

    If you got your news from somewhere other than Fox News et al, you'd know that
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    His public behavior is that of a spoiled, ignorant child having an endless series of temper tantrums. He doesn't appear to understand how the government of which he is ostensibly in charge of one-third works, what the powers of his office are and are not, or that the Congress and courts do not work for him. If I agreed with him on 100% of his agenda - whatever that would appear to be today - I would still find him to be a huge embarrassment and want him to be gone.
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    Donald Trump is first and foremost NOT A POLITICIAN. He is a highly successful business man. He does not play by the rules of the Political Class and that is something many of us have been clamoring for for quite a long time. He has a bad habit of saying what he means and only what he means and not using weasel words that can be construed 10 different ways.

    Tough beans that the elitest find him with dirty finger nails. Most of us like him, respect him and would invite him over for a Sunday sit down dinner.
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    Quote Originally Posted by alexa View Post
    Trump was pissed at he Fed because increases in the prime cause his legitimate loan payments to go up.

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...million-a-year

    I don't know about his terms with Putin.
    More tea leaves?
    Political tags - such as royalist, communist, democrat, populist, fascist, liberal, conservative, and so forth - are never basic criteria. The human race divides politically into those who want people to be controlled and those who have no such desire.
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