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    Why is everyone so polarized as concerning President Trump?

    I have never before seen the country so polarized as it is about Donald Trump: Some appear to view him as the very personification of all that is evil--he can do nothing right--whereas others seem to see him as the apotheosis of all that is good--and he can do no wrong.

    Why can't we simply agree that he is a human being--just like the rest of us--and that, like the rest of us, he is sometimes right, and sometimes wrong?

    Personally, I think that he has been right more often than not. But I did not care for his intrusion upon free trade; and his recent dustup with the Fed is not good either, in my opinion.

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    Some of us prefer not to have a racist grifter as President, and some of us, like you, like to make excuses for the inexcusable.

    Go figure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by alexa View Post
    Some of us prefer not to have a racist grifter as President, and some of us, like you, like to make excuses for the inexcusable.

    Go figure.
    To describe the man as "a racist grifter"--and to breezily dismiss all who do not agree with you, as "excuse" makers--is hardly a reasonable (or well-reasoned) response...

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    Quote Originally Posted by pjohns View Post
    To describe the man as "a racist grifter"--and to breezily dismiss all who do not agree with you, as "excuse" makers--is hardly a reasonable (or well-reasoned) response...
    Au contraire, it's both reasonable and well reasoned.

    If you got your news from somewhere other than Fox News et al, you'd know that
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    Quote Originally Posted by pjohns View Post
    To describe the man as "a racist grifter"--and to breezily dismiss all who do not agree with you, as "excuse" makers--is hardly a reasonable (or well-reasoned) response...
    It wasn't meant to be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by alexa View Post
    Some of us prefer not to have a racist grifter as President, and some of us, like you, like to make excuses for the inexcusable.

    Go figure.
    Thats good, because we don't have a racist for a president now. This racist accusation is without any merit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tahuyaman View Post
    Thats good, because we don't have a racist for a president now. This racist accusation is without any merit.

    But to some on the left, to be a Republican, or on the right, means you're a racist...of a fascist, or both. It doesn't mean anything, just a way to self-righteously moralize.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    But to some on the left, to be a Republican, or on the right, means you're a racist...of a fascist, or both. It doesn't mean anything, just a way to self-righteously moralize.
    The republicans I know believe in fiscal responsibility, our allies and our military. Those who have chosen to stay with this President do not believe in any of those things. It's difficult for me to consider them true republicans. I'm quite baffled by the whole thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trish View Post
    The republicans I know believe in fiscal responsibility, our allies and our military. Those who have chosen to stay with this President do not believe in any of those things. It's difficult for me to consider them true republicans. I'm quite baffled by the whole thing.
    The run-up to the general election in 2020 is going to be an interesting test of exactly where the Republican Party is and where it is headed. I believe we're going to see a head-to-head conflict - some of it behind the scenes and some of it public - between those who believe in traditional conservative values, such as those you mentioned, and adherents of the Trump cult of personality. Stand by to see whatever Republican candidates dare to oppose Trump's reelection slandered, attacked and flat-out lied about unmercifully. Hopefully, a sufficient number of the American people, including especially moderate Republicans and right-leaning Independents, will declare themselves tired of Trump's monkey cage antics and go another direction.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trish View Post
    The republicans I know believe in fiscal responsibility, our allies and our military. Those who have chosen to stay with this President do not believe in any of those things. It's difficult for me to consider them true republicans. I'm quite baffled by the whole thing.
    Why do you assume we are all Republicans? Trump isn't.
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