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    Our Exhausted American Mediocracy

    Victor Davis Hanson, Our Exhausted American Mediocracy. Not to make it about him but I like a man with a sense of history. As Marcus Tullius Cicero wrote, "To be ignorant of what occurred before you were born is to remain always a child. For what is the worth of human life, unless it is woven into the life of our ancestors by the records of history?"

    The unlikely 2016 election of Donald Trump—the first president without either prior political or military office—was a repudiation of the American “aristocracy.” By “rule of the best” I mean the ancien régime was no longer understood to suggest wealth and birth (alone), but instead envisioned itself as a supposed national meritocracy of those with proper degrees, and long service in the top hierarchies of government, media, blue-chip law firms, Wall Street, high tech, and academia.

    The 2016 election and refutation of the ruling class did not signal that those without such educations and qualifications were de facto better suited to direct the country. Instead, the lesson was that the past record of governance and the current stature of our assumed best and brightest certainly did not justify their reputations or authority, much less their outsized self-regard. In short, instead of being a meritocracy, they amount to a mediocracy, neither great nor awful, but mostly mediocre.

    This mediocracy is akin to late 4th-century B.C. Athenian politicians, the last generation of the Roman Republic, the late 18th-century French aristocracy, or the British bipartisan elite of the mid-1930s—their reputations relying on the greater wisdom and accomplishment of an earlier generation, while they remain convinced that their own credentials and titles are synonymous with achievement, and clueless about radical political, economic, military, and social upheavals right under their noses.

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    Tradition is not the worship of ashes, but the preservation of fire. ― Gustav Mahler

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    VDH is a classicist- I like how he can make valid comparisons between antiquity and today.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    Victor Davis Hanson, Our Exhausted American Mediocracy. Not to make it about him but I like a man with a sense of history. As Marcus Tullius Cicero wrote, "To be ignorant of what occurred before you were born is to remain always a child. For what is the worth of human life, unless it is woven into the life of our ancestors by the records of history?"
    Did this guy actually have to go back to the 4th Century B.C. to compare America's current political environment? I mean I get the nod to the French Aristocracy or the Brits in the 1930's but the Athenians 2,500 years ago?

    Let's compare his comparisons. In the 4th century B.C. people believed that epilepsy was a curse from the Gods and that deformed children should be tossed off a cliff or left on a hillside for the Gods.

    During the late 1700s we were still bleeding people with leaches if they had a fever, alcohol was the foremost sedative and rubbing poisonous lead on rectal cancer was the forefront of treatment for that ailment.

    I could go on but really... Do I have to?
    I find your lack of faith...disturbing...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Private Pickle View Post
    Did this guy actually have to go back to the 4th Century B.C. to compare America's current political environment? I mean I get the nod to the French Aristocracy or the Brits in the 1930's but the Athenians 2,500 years ago?

    Let's compare his comparisons. In the 4th century B.C. people believed that epilepsy was a curse from the Gods and that deformed children should be tossed off a cliff or left on a hillside for the Gods.

    During the late 1700s we were still bleeding people with leaches if they had a fever, alcohol was the foremost sedative and rubbing poisonous lead on rectal cancer was the forefront of treatment for that ailment.

    I could go on but really... Do I have to?
    His analogies were political. Not technological.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Private Pickle View Post
    Did this guy actually have to go back to the 4th Century B.C. to compare America's current political environment? I mean I get the nod to the French Aristocracy or the Brits in the 1930's but the Athenians 2,500 years ago?

    Let's compare his comparisons. In the 4th century B.C. people believed that epilepsy was a curse from the Gods and that deformed children should be tossed off a cliff or left on a hillside for the Gods.

    During the late 1700s we were still bleeding people with leaches if they had a fever, alcohol was the foremost sedative and rubbing poisonous lead on rectal cancer was the forefront of treatment for that ailment.

    I could go on but really... Do I have to?
    To get to something relevant, yes, you do.
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    The election of Donald Trump, by the 50 million or so voters out of the 200 million eligible voters, was an indication that some people wanted to disregard the de facto practice of electing leaders from the traditional pool of qualified politicians or the so called ruling class.

    It speaks more to the ingrained nativity, paranoia, fear and ignorance of a portion of the electorate than a cultural shift. Ironically the Trump adherents long for a bygone era and cry for the country to be made "great again"...great again like when the country was run by a political elite who knew what they were doing.

    Trumps election wasn't a refutation of the so called ruling class...it was an illustration of how susceptible some are to the politics of fear and how the electoral college system is flawed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    His analogies were political. Not technological.
    Shame on him.
    I find your lack of faith...disturbing...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister D View Post
    To get to something relevant, yes, you do.
    In order for me to take you seriously you need to actually react to someone...anything I said..
    I find your lack of faith...disturbing...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Common Sense View Post
    The election of Donald Trump, by the 50 million or so voters out of the 200 million eligible voters, was an indication that some people wanted to disregard the de facto practice of electing leaders from the traditional pool of qualified politicians or the so called ruling class.

    It speaks more to the ingrained nativity, paranoia, fear and ignorance of a portion of the electorate than a cultural shift. Ironically the Trump adherents long for a bygone era and cry for the country to be made "great again"...great again like when the country was run by a political elite who knew what they were doing.

    Trumps election wasn't a refutation of the so called ruling class...it was an illustration of how susceptible some are to the politics of fear and how the electoral college system is flawed.
    Typical liberal mindset, dismiss those who disagree with you as morons. You people will never learn.

    ...the traditional pool of qualified politicians...
    Lol, wow, you are even more clueless than I thought.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Private Pickle View Post
    In order for me to take you seriously you need to actually react to someone...anything I said..
    You didn't say anything relevant to the OP. Take that seriously. Or don't.
    Whoever criticizes capitalism, while approving immigration, whose working class is its first victim, had better shut up. Whoever criticizes immigration, while remaining silent about capitalism, should do the same.


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