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    Conservative Supreme Court could reverse decades of First Amendment law

    This is an interesting case that hinges on the words in the establishment clause: "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion...." Simplifying, a new case coming before the court argues it should be interprested as "compulsion by law," while precedent interprets it as "feelings of offense and exclusion."

    The amendment does read "Congress shall make no law." Not sure where the law making enters into it. The Peace Cross was a few years ago added to the National Register of Historic Places which means public funds are used for maintenance (Peace Cross).

    Conservative Supreme Court could reverse decades of First Amendment law

    The American Legion and its supporters recently filed initial briefs in The American Legion v. American Humanist Association, a Supreme Court case to be argued in February concerning the constitutionality of a 4-foot, 90-year-old memorial cross displayed and maintained by a state agency in Bladensburg, Md. Depending on how the court rules, however, much more is at stake.

    ...the American Legion’s lawyers and supporters are arguing that the court should upend numerous court decisions and rule that the government can legally take action to promote or endorse a specific religion. This would effectively turn those who do not believe in that religion into second-class citizens.

    Specifically, even though the formal questions presented in the case relate narrowly to whether the Bladensburg cross violates the First Amendment’s Establishment Clause, the first legal argument in the American Legion’s brief proclaims broadly that “coercion, not endorsement, is the proper standard” to judge Establishment Clause claims. Former Reagan Justice Department lawyer Michael Carvin and the conservative First Liberty Institute urge in the brief that the court should “clarify” that “coercive state activity” is required to violate the First Amendment.

    This should be “compulsion by law” to “coerce belief in, observance of, or financial support for religion” by government, they claim. It is perfectly legal for government to promote or endorse a religion, they assert, regardless of whether it results in “feelings of offense and exclusion,” since government is free to promote other nonreligious messages even if some disagree....

    The best answers to these claims were provided by Republican-appointed Supreme Court justices years ago in response to efforts by Justice Antonin Scalia and others to adopt the coercion standard. In Lee v. Weisman (1992), Justice David Souter carefully demonstrated that the First Amendment’s history shows the Founders “extended their prohibition” to include government action that endorsed or promoted religion, not just coercion.

    Otherwise, he explained, the Establishment Clause would have been duplicative of the Free Exercise Clause, which clearly prohibits government action that coerces religious belief or practice. Government can promote other views in foreign or domestic policy, Souter explained, because there is no constitutional prohibition on such endorsement as the Establishment Clause, which makes religious beliefs “irrelevant to every citizen’s standing in the political community.”

    [read more for longer history of precednts]
    Tradition is not the worship of ashes, but the preservation of fire. ― Gustav Mahler

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    This is an interesting case that hinges on the words in the establishment clause: "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion...." Simplifying, a new case coming before the court argues it should be interprested as "compulsion by law," while precedent interprets it as "feelings of offense and exclusion."

    The amendment does read "Congress shall make no law." Not sure where the law making enters into it. The Peace Cross was a few years ago added to the National Register of Historic Places which means public funds are used for maintenance (Peace Cross).

    Conservative Supreme Court could reverse decades of First Amendment law
    We cannot have a First Church of the United States.
    Call your state legislators and insist they approve the Article V convention of States to propose amendments.


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    Quote Originally Posted by MisterVeritis View Post
    We cannot have a First Church of the United States.
    Right, I think that's what the establishment clause is about. Not some Peace Cross.
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