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    The military -- probably any military on earth -- is about 90% or more welfare recipients for life who most likely never had any role in actual military operations. That's just a fact and a big reason why empires eventually fail.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lummy View Post
    The military -- probably any military on earth -- is about 90% or more welfare recipients for life who most likely never had any role in actual military operations. That's just a fact and a big reason why empires eventually fail.
    How many years did you spend in the military?
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Xl View Post
    Why would anyone voluntarily serve? A lot of Americans are smart to what the score is in regards to our foreign policy.
    When I was 17 I wasn't concerned with US foreign policy. I actually expected to see combat when I joined up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lummy View Post
    The military -- probably any military on earth -- is about 90% or more welfare recipients for life who most likely never had any role in actual military operations. That's just a fact and a big reason why empires eventually fail.
    You must have served in a different Army than I did.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lummy View Post
    Why not? You seem to have a lot of room.

    Otherwise, WTF are you talking about? You mean in combat, or what?
    The military will never enlist a mostly deaf man who happens to ne legally blind in one eye. Hell. ask them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lummy View Post
    The military -- probably any military on earth -- is about 90% or more welfare recipients for life who most likely never had any role in actual military operations. That's just a fact and a big reason why empires eventually fail.
    Tell that to the veterans. Start a thread about it.
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    In the 2003-2011 Iraq War, only some 15% of the U.S. military served in combat. However these figures are skewed by the Marines who fought constantly, the Army who is 70% logistical and administrative, the Air Farce who primarily flew long distance resupply and logistics, and the Navy, who was basically uninvolved (except for March-April 2003) in what was an extended land war.

    Actually seeing combat (actually exchanging bullets) today (21st century) for the US military (counting the US Navy, US Air Force, US Coast Guard, US Marine Corps, US Army) less than 01%.

    Explanation:

    1. Post Vietnam warfare-Naval and Air Forces have had little actual combat; a few engagements here and there. But no actual combat against a determined enemy (no aerial aces as just one example of evidence, few to none in downed aviation personnel (few to zero POWs) as another example). Consequently the US Navy, Coast Guard, and Air Force as well as the aviation units of the US Marine Corps and US Army can be eliminated from the equation.

    2. That leaves the Army/Marines and Special Ops men (from all branches). SF men are the minority of military personnel. That in itself amounts to a less than 01% of combat experienced people.

    3. Using the Vietnam War as a barometer (since it was a full fledged all out war minus the invasion of North Vietnam and the usage of Atomic Weapons):

    A. All branches of the US military were fully committed to the Viet War.

    B. All branches of the US military suffered heavy casualties in both men and equipment in Vietnam (the USCG suffered losses but their figures are normally combined with the USNs data).

    C. In almost ALL military campaigns/wars/operations/etc. no matter what the nationality or time & date; almost all fighting men require the following:

    (a) Food, Transportation, Repairs, Medical Support, and Pay (administration); Even Ghengis Khans men and the Roman soldiers got paid.

    (b) That equates to at least 5 people (to do the above) to SUPPORT just one fighting man.

    (c) In the Viet War there were over 500,000 men in country at one time. Only 25,000 men were in the field at any single one given day. Given that those 25,000 men were being rotated (stand down time) then that means at a minimum 50,000 men were in a actual combat environment.

    (d) 50,000 from 500,000 men equals over 4 men in support of each of the 50,000 men in the field.

    (e) Which means only 50,000 men were in an actual combat environment and over 450,000 men were not.

    (f) Of those 50,000 men probably less than half (50%) actually fired (or threw hand grenades, detonated claymores, etc. etc.) their weapons during a firefight (battle) or they didn't fire a weapon just hit the dirt and were present on the battlefield (which would count as seeing combat).

    (g) For the Viet War, a good estimation would be roughly 10% of the men saw combat. This figure would nearly mirror WWI, WWII, etc. as the organization/structure of 5 support men will always be required to support 1 fighting man, regardless of what war or when it was fought. The only difference will be the 10% may be a million casualties or only 50,000 casualties, the numbers will most often vary...but 10% will always be 10%.
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    What is this? I said I regretted not serving. You asked why not and I told you. What this has to do with my regret is beyond me.

    You can die doing anything anywhere near the front or the enemy.

    What's your purpose with this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Captdon View Post
    My biggest regret is not being able to serve. I think I missed something important.

    The Military is a unique family.



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