We don't need the wall, Mexico is booming!

[Captdon]

There is also another conundrum, Trump is constantly talking about creating more jobs, but we are in a serious worker shortage.
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/07/05/the-...cal-point.html

Too many jobs not enough workers
https://www.washingtonpost.com/

American businesses cant find workers
https://money.cnn.com/2018/01/17/new...age/index.html

We need to bring in skilled workers. We aren't making dummy jobs that Obama policies made. We don't need to become a nation of scut workers, of peasants.

[Cletus]

Mickey Rooney has been dead for almost 5 years. He has nothing more to contribute to the discussion than you do.

[Sergeant Gleed]

Draft dodger and tax cheat Donnie John uses the wall to pacify his base, humans at their core are territorial, it is contained in our genetic makeup and exists in all primates. Borders defend the homeland from other primates, making Trump snowflakes aware isn't going to help for at base they still follow their evolutionary history.

"Ants have the most complicated social organization on earth next to humans." E. O. Wilson

Read Wilson's book on human nature if you doubt.

Well, folks, help me make a decision here.

Is this Kool-Aid drinker amusing in anyway? Because the thing certainly is ignorant.

Is there any benefit in NOT putting this thing on "Ignore"?


The thing calls this president a "tax cheat"...with no evidence at all, and a "draft dodger", though the man had a medical deferment. I'm pretty certain this thing supports everything Clinton, even thought the XY Clinton is an avowed draft dodger AND a rapist AND a perjurer.

Since humans at their core (the posting thing believes people are Apples, ie, programmable NPCs from China. Apples have cores, so do computers), and they're territorial....which means the dirst diseased animals should be allowed to enter OUR territory because....they want it or something. Clearly this thing's logic circuits are corrupted. It almost certainly was evil enough to support the XX Clinton. And the XX Clinton Hag is the biggest traitor in American history, outside of that XX Obama (there's two of those, Skinny and Fat)

[Sergeant Gleed]

We need to bring in skilled workers. We aren't making dummy jobs that Obama policies made. We don't need to become a nation of scut workers, of peasants.

No, we don't.

We graduate more than enough skilled workers from our universities right here.

Time for the cheap-ass corporations to start offering higher wages to attract domestic talent...talent that can't be cowed into submission with threats to pull immigration visas or otherwise.

Importing college educated wetbacks is just as bad as importing field-picker wetbacks.

The US has to have a complete moratorium on immigration for two generations to assimilate the aliens we've mistakenly taken aboard.

We simply do not need any more aliens, not of any kind.

[Sergeant Gleed]

If it's not Mexicans, then why not build a wall around Honduras and Guatemala? Or we could make Guatemala pay for the wall in Mexico? No, Trump has said before he would make Mexico pay for the wall. Now you Trumpites are claiming it's not the Mexicans you want to keep out. LOL.
It sounds like you want an entire immigration freeze of everyone, by your tone. JAP laid out a very reasonable variety of links that all show why immigration labor is important to us. I sure don't want to pay $30 for a pound of grapes at the store, or pay $400 for a pair of shoes, but that is exactly what immigration freezes and punitive tariffs will bring about.
If we build a wall and freeze immigration, we will isolate ourselves from the rest of the world. But we cannot isolate ourselves out of unreasonable prejudice and misunderstanding how an economy works, and expect to participate in the global economy in a meaningful way.
The facts are actually not in your favor.

^^^ Graduated From American High School ^^^

Anyone else point out to this guy that ...the US does not share a border with Guatemala or Honduras?

What's wrong with isolating ourselves from the rest of the world, since the ENTIRE WORLD that isn't the United States is indeed a flaming $#@!hole?

And...how ignorant does someone have to be to not realize that the harvesting costs show up as something like 10% of the cost of fruit at the grocery store? Thus a $3.99 pound of grapes would cost an additional forty cents if the picking costs were doubled...

….fascists, they just hate facts.

[Helena]

Is the term wetbacks racist? I can't remember.. @Captdon, help me out here.

[Sergeant Gleed]

I have heard a lot of people in this forum talk about how we need to build the wall. They are constantly saying how the Mexicans are invading us. I want to set some things straight that many of you might not be aware of. I believe trump is fooling his base just to keep them cheerleading for him, he is using the wall to do it. https://www.nbcnews.com/nightly-news...-1007177795804

If walls didn't work, the Rodents would be all over it, spending a thousand billion dollars, to line their own pockets with taxpayer money.

Just like they do for every other program that doesn't work, like education (look at the guy that wrote the OP for evidence of that), welfare, and abortions.

You should know that there are more Mexicans leaving America than are immigrating. http://www.pewhispanic.org/2015/11/1...ng-to-the-u-s/ This began many years ago it started under Obama. You should know that Obama was the toughest president on Immigration in US History. http://immigrationimpact.com/2017/01...y-immigration/ Many are not aware of this but Mexico is one of the strongest economies in the world, It takes #15 on the list. https://www.investopedia.com/insight...top-economies/ They are up and coming. They are being hailed as the new china. https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q...864D&FORM=VIRE This is the real reason that they do not need to come here anymore. Actually Mexico has a worker shortage. https://www.upi.com/Mexican-state-sa...4031541522411/ This is the reason that Mexico offered the people from Honduras to stay, because they needed them for their labor. Mexico no longer needs us, for our jobs.

Soooooo….what you're saying is that if we built the wall, the number of illegal aliens would drain faster because the replenishment rate would decrease.

Good idea to build a wall then.

America...it's for AMERICANS.

Not illegal aliens.

Only a small majority of the people trying to cross our border are Mexicans, they are mostly the Hondurans, running from terror.

And...well, like I said, you clearly got a diploma from a high school in America, though it clearly was not an American high school....why are they still running, why are they still in "terror" by the time they've finished traversing the 1000 miles of Messyco to get to the US southern border?

Besides, Americans don't give a flying fried toroid about stupid Hondurans. If they don't have the guts to stand up and defend their own home from enemies, why would we want the useless THINGS overrunning OUR (that means "mine", not "yours", obviously) country?

Mexicans are leaving the US in droves.

Good.

All we have to offer them is to work hard labor in the fields,

And the restaurants and the hospitals and the hotels and the gardens and the construction industry and the home repair industries and the maids and the sex traffickers, too.

I mean, the nation's farms can't absorb all of the FORTY MILLION ILLEGALS in the country, you know.

They're taking jobs from EVERY high school kid that wants a part-time job.

With devastating effect on the economy.

America is no longer the only leader, we are not the only land of milk and honey, the only land of opportunity. People don't need to come here for that anymore. All of the people screaming about Mexicans invading our nation are just not aware of the real facts.

Oh, GOOD.

They can haul their sorry butts to Europe, then.

[Orion Rules]

I have heard a lot of people in this forum talk about how we need to build the wall. They are constantly saying how the Mexicans are invading us...

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But we are benefiting from one another. https://www.forbes.com/sites/themexi.../#571ad3b47768 Because Mexico is buying a lot from us now. They are up and coming. They are the new china. https://www.wealthdaily.com/articles...new-china/3694 You can throw out the window everything you thought that you knew about Mexico and the border.

America is no longer the only leader, we are not the only land of milk and honey, the only land of opportunity. People don't need to come here for that anymore. All of the people screaming about Mexicans invading our nation are just not aware of the real facts.

The "need" to build a wall across the land is not necessary to the extent it is being made into a pronouncement. That peace can be made between individuals and companies who wish to trade between nations along the border in order for more economic opportunities to be created. A Christian society of honest business practices, where the dishonest will be thrown out. Perhaps that is the reason(s) for all the stalled agreements, for the building of a wall will bring in way less.

[Mister D]

From strawberries to apples, a wave of agriculture robotics may ease the farm labor crunch


It's better late than never. Cheap, alien labor has retarded technological growth in a number of industries.

[Sergeant Gleed]

Is the term wetbacks racist? I can't remember.. @Captdon, help me out here.

No, of course not.

"illegal alien" isn't a "race".