Dems submit bill to end the electoral college

[Tahuyaman]

I would be fine with abolishing the Senate and going for a unicameral legislature. If I’m not mistaken that was the New Jersey plan prior to the drafting of the constitution.

After reconsidering this issue, I believe that we should repeal the 17th amendment and return to having senator's appointed by the legislature of each state.

[MisterVeritis]

I would be fine with abolishing the Senate and going for a unicameral legislature. If I’m not mistaken that was the New Jersey plan prior to the drafting of the constitution.

Cool. The way to do this flows through the Fifth Article.

[Green Arrow]

Cool. The way to do this flows through the Fifth Article.

So you said, many times. I’m familiar with how the process works.

[Peter1469]

I would be fine with abolishing the Senate and going for a unicameral legislature. If I’m not mistaken that was the New Jersey plan prior to the drafting of the constitution.

I believe so. Some states are unicameral.

I would prefer the senate go back to the states.

[Green Arrow]

I believe so. Some states are unicameral.

I would prefer the senate go back to the states.

I think Nebraska is actually the only one.

I just don’t see the point in giving “states” representation. Representation for what?

[Peter1469]

I think Nebraska is actually the only one.

I just don’t see the point in giving “states” representation. Representation for what?

To represent the state's interests like citizen's interests are represented in the House.

[MisterVeritis]

I think Nebraska is actually the only one.

I just don’t see the point in giving “states” representation. Representation for what?

The States created the federal government to do a few things individual states cannot. The States must be represented as sovereign entities.

[Green Arrow]

To represent the state's interests like citizen's interests are represented in the House.

I get that, but what are those interests?

[Tahuyaman]

I get that, but what are those interests?

What we impress upon them as our interests. One interest is to minimize the federal government's involvement and encroachments into our daily life.

[Peter1469]

What we impress upon them as our interests. One interest is to minimize the federal government's involvement and encroachments into our daily life.

Right. The Constitutional framework is federalism. The Federal government has only the limited enumerated powers stated in the Constitution. Most power to regulate and spend tax dollars lies in Art. 1, sec. 8.

The States and the People have all remaining power.

The electoral college is a reflection of this framework. The people's vote is actually funneled through the state via the electors who are selected and whose vote is governed by state law. If we eliminate the EC we are further eroding the power of the states and the Constitutional framework. The 17th Amendment has already cracked that framework and should be repealed.