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    Quote Originally Posted by DGUtley View Post
    From the last article:

    Critically, for all the sound and fury, there is no real disagreement about the facts. Mercatus’s own study does find that if you cut provider rates to Medicare levels you could reduce national health expenditures — and there’s no denying that even if you reduced national health expenditures, shifting all health spending onto the federal balance sheet would require significant tax increases.

    1. Cut provider rates to Medicare levels. (Doctors cannot keep the doors open at Medicare provide only rates)
    2. Would require significant tax increases. (Naturally, the wagon pullers get to pay more)

    Right, that's the Sanders argument, that while it would increase governmnt spending, by "an annual average increase of $2.8 trillion," (WaPo) it would reduce individual spending, though there's no evidence to show that.

    Even if true, do we want the government deciding our doctors and treatments?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    Right, that's the Sanders argument, that while it would increase governmnt spending, by "an annual average increase of $2.8 trillion," (WaPo) it would reduce individual spending, though there's no evidence to show that.
    Even if true, do we want the government deciding our doctors and treatments?
    No.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    Ask veterans who rely on VA healthcare.
    I did. Less than five minutes ago. They’re thrilled with the care by upset by the lack of funding for better care.
    How crazy alt righties got pwnd by a conervative web site:
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    Medicare now costs 10,000 a year for 80%. For 100% of only what we get now, it would be 12,500 per person. that would be about 4 trillion dollars for what we get now at 100%. It does not include dental or eye care.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Zero View Post
    I did. Less than five minutes ago. They’re thrilled with the care by upset by the lack of funding for better care.
    lol, I doubt you talked to any veteran who relies on VA.

    The VA system is broken. There are some VA hospitals that are actually very good. But you have to live close to them to benefit. The DC hospital is fairly new and is a beautiful building. But it is dysfunctional. A lot of it has nothing to do with funding, but rather unions.
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