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Thread: What, precisely, do Democrats want to impeach Trump for?

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    Peter.....first ,Thank you for your service and second, thank you for not responding as a immature child. I appreciate that.

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    Yes I know how many wants criminal investigations to run. Two points. First I was a military magistrate for a period of time. Part of that job was to approve or deny search authorizations. I never let the government over reach- no "fishing" expeditions as it is called. Second, Congress knows that as well, that is why when they drafted the special counsel statute they specifically added language that required the basis of the investigation to be a crime. The basis of Muehler's investigation is not a crime.
    ...Does the investigation allow for any matters that arose or may arise directly from the investigation?





    Actually I am very familiar with obstruction of justice. I was a military prosecutor and a special assistant US attorney for many years. That is why I know it is not obstruction of justice for the president to fire someone who works for him at his pleasure. Comey said as much in his bye bye speech to the FBI. Also Trump's discussions with Comey regarding Flynn likewise do not amount to obstruction of justice. Comey has actually testified before Congress that he does not think Trump obstructed justice.

    But I am not an honest person and you know more than this experienced lawyer who has done this stuff in the real world. OK.
    Peter..., I respect your professional opinions....can you kindly explain to me in laymen's terms what is obstruction of justice and why Trump never did it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rantzmar View Post
    Well thats sorta true. The reason part is not correct. He cant fire to obstruct.
    *He cant fire to obstruct* ............... What did he obstruct ??
    It's ok if you disagree with me. I can't force you to be right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rantzmar View Post
    Peter.....first ,Thank you for your service and second, thank you for not responding as a immature child. I appreciate that.

    ...Does the investigation allow for any matters that arose or may arise directly from the investigation?
    The problem is that the original mandate was legally insignificant. If we imagine a proper mandate, then yes you can expand beyond the original mandate.

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    Peter..., I respect your professional opinions....can you kindly explain to me in laymen's terms what is obstruction of justice and why Trump never did it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rantzmar View Post
    Well at least you admitted that you are a good old boy, no more hiding that fact. Thanks for coming out the closet. Thats at least two of you exposed and out in the open.

    And you are in a "club of people laughing at your lame @$$."?......you must be laughing at your hero Trump, who is your leader. He is the most lame@$$ person we have seen in eons.
    Yes I am in the club of people who are more your intellectual superiors, and it's a pretty big club. Your comeback is pathetic, just like your presence on this forum. Step up your game since you don't have anything intelligent to add here anyway.

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    I'm posting from a phone so I'm not going to post the link, but Trump even said in his Lester Holt interview he knew he would lengthen the time of the investigation by firing Comey. Obstruction of justice is trumped up Democrat establishment crap to stir up their base because they know they're idiots.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rantzmar View Post
    Well at least you admitted that you are a good old boy, no more hiding that fact. Thanks for coming out the closet. Thats at least two of you exposed and out in the open.

    And you are in a "club of people laughing at your lame @$$."?......you must be laughing at your hero Trump, who is your leader. He is the most lame@$$ person we have seen in eons.
    If he isn't your president, you cannot call for impeachment
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeb! View Post
    Yes I am in the club of people who are more your intellectual superiors, and it's a pretty big club. Your comeback is pathetic, just like your presence on this forum. Step up your game since you don't have anything intelligent to add here anyway.
    This says the good old boy with Jeb as his moniker. That speaks volumes about you..... lol!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeb! View Post
    I'm posting from a phone so I'm not going to post the link, but Trump even said in his Lester Holt interview he knew he would lengthen the time of the investigation by firing Comey. Obstruction of justice is trumped up Democrat establishment crap to stir up their base because they know they're idiots.
    Hahahahahaha...you telling us how smart you are now...you also proved you are one of those who believe every lie that comes out of Trumps mouth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rantzmar View Post
    Hahahahahaha...you telling us how smart you are now...you also proved you are one of those who believe every lie that comes out of Trumps mouth.
    Your whole argument was Trump's words, but when they defeat your argument, you choose to ignore them. Your position is illogical.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rantzmar View Post
    This says the good old boy with Jeb as his moniker. That speaks volumes about you..... lol!
    Your blank avatar is appropriate, because it symbolizes your lack of brain activity.

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