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    On discourse in the Formerly Free West

    and otherwise excoriating the idea of "hate speech".







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    Isn't excoriating the idea of "hate speech" "hate speech"?

    Hate speech is the worst of PC.
    Edmund Burke: "In vain you tell me that Artificial Government is good, but that I fall out only with the Abuse. The Thing! the Thing itself is the Abuse!"

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    "who defines hate.. It's not like it's a scientific category. It's a judgement. The answer is, those whom you least want to have the power to define it. ... If you think that doesn't affect what you get to say, well you've got another thing coming."
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    Nobody should have the power to define it. Free speech is free speech. Constitutionally protected. With very few exceptions (child pornography for one), no speech should be restricted. As Voltaire said: I Disapprove of What You Say, But I Will Defend to the Death Your Right to Say It. I believe that. Wholeheartedly. I'm sorry if it offends you but you are free to be offended and we can talk about it. Now, personally, there's much I won't say b/c it will offend someone but that's a personal judgment for myself not b/c of any PC word-police. There some I'm offended by (for example, using the F word on here) but I turn the screen or change the channel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    Isn't excoriating the idea of "hate speech" "hate speech"?

    Hate speech is the worst of PC.

    Man, I hate when people ask questions like that. It's like a double negative, and then you follow up with a negative positive. I hate that too.

    I hate everything, actually. So thanks but no thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lummy View Post
    Man, I hate when people ask questions like that. It's like a double negative, and then you follow up with a negative positive. I hate that too.

    I hate everything, actually. So thanks but no thanks.
    Was that post hate speech?
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    No. Well, yes. Yes and no, really. Yes. Whichever keeps me out of the gulag, that's what it was.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Helena View Post
    and otherwise excoriating the idea of "hate speech".







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    Peterson is becoming a star.

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    Quote Originally Posted by donttread View Post
    Peterson is becoming a star.

    American state DEC's beat Europe back to the report your neighbor concept by years!

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    Quote Originally Posted by donttread View Post
    American state DEC's beat Europe back to the report your neighbor concept by years!
    DECs?
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