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    Quote Originally Posted by MisterVeritis View Post
    I disagree with you. President Trump needs to keep the government shut down until the Democrats capitulate. Most federal workers are Democrats. Let them bleed.

    President Trump will not lose his base if he keeps the government shut down until we win. No wall money? Keep the government closed. Further, do not fear we will abandon President Trump.


    $#@! the Democrats.
    Well, think what you will, but I don’t see any realistic chance at all that Trump keeps the shutdown going after launching a national emergency declaration. That’s what he does when he gives up and just signs off on the government reopening without congressional funding. I just don’t think there’s any realistic chance whatsoever he keeps the government shutdown anyway. It’ll be fully reopened in the coming days/weeks, one way or another.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ManyWants View Post
    Of course it’ll be challenged, but given this court and a basic read of the relevant case law, it’s about 90% guaranteed the SCOTUS will uphold the wall. It’ll take longer to build it, for sure, but it’ll come. It’s just the only option if congress won’t fund the wall, and one that he looks to be gearing up for.
    This is a political issue. It is not a legal matter. $#@! the courts and $#@! the judges who unlawfully interfere.
    Call your state legislators and insist they approve the Article V convention of States to propose amendments.


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    Quote Originally Posted by MisterVeritis View Post
    I disagree with you.


    President Trump needs to keep the government shut down until the Democrats capitulate. Most federal workers are Democrats. Let them bleed.

    President Trump will not lose his base if he keeps the government shut down until we win. No wall money? Keep the government closed. Further, do not fear we will abandon President Trump.


    $#@! the Democrats.
    Quote Originally Posted by MisterVeritis View Post
    This is a political issue. It is not a legal matter. $#@! the courts and $#@! the judges who unlawfully interfere.
    Yeah that's it ... show us your Tantrum ...




    'How and Why ?' ~ Einstein

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    Quote Originally Posted by ManyWants View Post
    Well, think what you will, but I don’t see any realistic chance at all that Trump keeps the shutdown going after launching a national emergency declaration. That’s what he does when he gives up and just signs off on the government reopening without congressional funding. I just don’t think there’s any realistic chance whatsoever he keeps the government shutdown anyway. It’ll be fully reopened in the coming days/weeks, one way or another.
    You err.

    I predict you will frequently err.
    Call your state legislators and insist they approve the Article V convention of States to propose amendments.


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    President Trump needs to keep the government shut down until the Democrats capitulate. Most federal workers are Democrats. Let them bleed.

    President Trump will not lose his base if he keeps the government shut down until we win. No wall money? Keep the government closed. Further, do not fear we will abandon President Trump.


    $#@! the Democrats.
    Quote Originally Posted by exotix View Post
    Yeah that's it ... show us your Tantrum ...
    The Democratic Party is a hostile enemy political party. I want you to bleed.
    Call your state legislators and insist they approve the Article V convention of States to propose amendments.


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    Quote Originally Posted by MisterVeritis View Post
    This is a political issue. It is not a legal matter. $#@! the courts and $#@! the judges who unlawfully interfere.
    I mean, someone will challenge the constitutional authority for Trump to build a wall via national emergency declaration, and the courts with resolve it. That’s how our constitution sets up legal resolutions - to be resolved by the courts. He doesn’t really have any choice. It’s our system of government.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MisterVeritis View Post
    I disagree with you. President Trump needs to keep the government shut down until the Democrats capitulate. Most federal workers are Democrats. Let them bleed.

    President Trump will not lose his base if he keeps the government shut down until we win. No wall money? Keep the government closed. Further, do not fear we will abandon President Trump.


    $#@! the Democrats.
    You might not abandon Trump but he will eventually abandon you when he considers you are no longer his fodder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MisterVeritis View Post
    President Trump needs to keep the government shut down until the Democrats capitulate. Most federal workers are Democrats. Let them bleed.

    President Trump will not lose his base if he keeps the government shut down until we win. No wall money? Keep the government closed. Further, do not fear we will abandon President Trump.


    $#@! the Democrats.

    The Democratic Party is a hostile enemy political party. I want you to bleed.
    Yeah that's it ... throw that tantrum at the Coup ...
    'How and Why ?' ~ Einstein

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    Quote Originally Posted by ManyWants View Post
    I mean, someone will challenge the constitutional authority for Trump to build a wall via national emergency declaration, and the courts with resolve it. That’s how our constitution sets up legal resolutions - to be resolved by the courts. He doesn’t really have any choice. It’s our system of government.
    You err.

    The Congress gave the President statutory authority to declare a national emergency and to act. There is no legal issue to resolve. This is a political issue. The Congress wrote laws giving the president the authority to act. The Congress can also reverse the President. The court has no role to play. None.

    The President has plenty of choices.
    Call your state legislators and insist they approve the Article V convention of States to propose amendments.


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    Quote Originally Posted by exotix View Post
    Yeah that's it ... show us your Tantrum ...




    wrong image.
    This is the one throwing a temper tantrum:
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