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    Real ID

    Should I get one? Why or why not? What does it do for me? Why does it require that I go back to the DL center and provide them with all of the information I previously gave them for my existing DL license?

    If I do not get a real ID, what am I prohibited from doing?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Helena View Post
    Should I get one? Why or why not? What does it do for me? Why does it require that I go back to the DL center and provide them with all of the information I previously gave them for my existing DL license?

    If I do not get a real ID, what am I prohibited from doing?
    Flying or entering any federal facility.

    If you have a passport you can use that instead.

    Virginia's drivers license is not yet Real ID compliant, but VA has an extension that is running out soon. I just got a my license renew two years ago so it has another 8 to go. I will not renew my license until 2026. In the mean time I can use my passport and Global entry card to fly and my military ID to get on federal installations.
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    I don't understand why I will be prohibited from flying. The exact same documents they needed for my DL are what they are asking for again. What is the purpose?

    Why am I not going to be permitted to fly if I don't get one of these?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    Flying or entering any federal facility. ...

    What if I have to go to Federal Court? How will they know it's me if I don't get one of these?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Helena View Post
    I don't understand why I will be prohibited from flying. The exact same documents they needed for my DL are what they are asking for again. What is the purpose?

    Why am I not going to be permitted to fly if I don't get one of these?
    Because that is what the Real ID Act provides for. If your state drivers license meets the Real ID Act requirements it will have a star in the corner.

    I think that the requirements are more than just what goes on the license, but what you have to show to get it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Helena View Post
    What if I have to go to Federal Court? How will they know it's me if I don't get one of these?
    Passport. If you have nothing you might end up with your case dismissed. Or if you are a defendant or a witness found to be in contempt of court.
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    I don't have a current passport and I'm not planning on getting one.

    I also forgot that you're a literalist, so I need to be more precise in my meaning when I ask a question. Sorry about that.

    I'm not understanding WHY this Real ID act exists and what the reasoning is for it.

    I received an info card from my DL center and it doesn't ask for any more information than I already had to give them for my current DL,but they want me to come in now with all of my documentation so I can apply for the REAL ID in the spring. Doesn't make any sort of sense to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    Passport. If you have nothing you might end up with your case dismissed. Or if you are a defendant or a witness found to be in contempt of court.
    How could I be found in contempt of court if it is not a requirement to obtain a Real ID?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Helena View Post
    I don't have a current passport and I'm not planning on getting one.

    I also forgot that you're a literalist, so I need to be more precise in my meaning when I ask a question. Sorry about that.

    I'm not understanding WHY this Real ID act exists and what the reasoning is for it.

    I received an info card from my DL center and it doesn't ask for any more information than I already had to give them for my current DLbutthey want me to come in now with all of my documentation so I can apply for the REAL ID in the spring. Doesn't make any sort of sense to me.
    If your state is complaint with the law then they should be issuing Real ID Act cards now. How old is yours? Even if it "meets" the requirements, it has to have the star in the corner.

    Why was the act passed?

    Passed by Congress in 2005, the REAL ID Act enacted the 9/11 Commission's recommendation that the Federal Government “set standards for the issuance of sources of identification, such as driver's licenses.” The Act established minimum security standards for state-issued driver's licenses and identification cards and prohibits Federal agencies from accepting for official purposes licenses and identification cards from states that do not meet these standards. States have made considerable progress in meeting this key recommendation of the 9/11 Commission and every state has a more secure driver's license today than before the passage of the Act.
    Also the way that they are made they are suppose to be hard and much more expensive to forge.

    Here is the DHS public page with Qs&As.

    If you want really detailed information here is the Congressional Research Services report on the RealID Act of 2005.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Helena View Post
    How could I be found in contempt of court if it is not a requirement to obtain a Real ID?
    If the judge tells you to be in court on X date and X time, and you aren't, there will be issues. I suppose it will fast become a problem for the courts to figure out how to do with. This will affect a lot of people.
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