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    What did the Romans ever do for London?

    What did the Romans ever do for London?

    The author asserts that modern London owes more to the Anglo-Saxons than the Romans. An interesting idea. However, I would not discount Roman influence. Study the history of Edinburgh, a place that Roman never reached to see what Rome did for London.

    When Bishop Guy of Amiens looked across the Channel in the 11th century he saw ‘teeming London [which] shines bright. A most spacious city, full of evil inhabitants, and richer than anywhere else in the kingdom’. Well, plus c’est la męme chose.

    Even then those Mammonic associations were already old. Over 300 years earlier the Venerable Bede had called London an ‘emporium of many nations who visit it by land and sea’ — a place of markets and mints, of North Sea slave-traders and missionaries seeking martyrdom east of the Rhine, of wine and wool merchants trying to make ends meet. The hubbub and hum of the city had begun.


    London of the early middle ages has — like much early medieval history — often been ignored. Peter Ackroyd’s magnificently successful London: The Biography dedicated 11 of its 800 pages to the six centuries between the fall of Rome and the Norman Conquest — akin to breezing over the period between the murder of Edward II and the Suez crisis. To be fair, such abbreviations derive from the profound ambiguity or absence of sources. Between 400 and 1000 written material on London is scarce and the archaeology confusing and incomplete. Step forward Rory Naismith to mind the gaps.





    At Cambridge Naismith was something of a wunderkind who published his first paper whilst still an undergraduate. Now an established academic at King’s College London, he has an almost unmatched knowledge of how early English money worked — the production, design, regulation and circulation of pennies, shillings and the like. This particular skill is married to an expert understanding of the disparate archaeology and texts of the period — essential disciplines for grappling with the oddities of medieval England.



    For a long time early Anglo-Saxon London posed a conundrum. Whenever the Square Mile was excavated, the diggers and scrapers came back with the same answer: after the collapse of the Roman city in the fifth century there were no identifiable remains until a sudden boom in the 900s. Some archaeologists asserted that either Bede had been referring to a sort of fayre rather than a settlement, or that he had been mistaken. It was only when others began to consider finds from the somewhat tellingly named Aldwych (‘old town’) that the truth emerged. Anglo-Saxon Lundenwic had grown up to the west of the Roman city’s wreckage along the Strand — a beach market (suitably enough, beneath the history department of King’s College London). There merchants flourished until the late ninth century when, beset by Viking armies, the remaining Roman walls began to look inviting.
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    End of Roman rule in Britain - Wikipedia

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    The historian Theodor Mommsen (Britain, 1885) said that "It was not Britain that gave up Rome, but Rome that gave up Britain ...", arguing that Roman needs and priorities lay elsewhere. [38] His position has retained scholarly support over the passage of time.




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    Londinium: 10 Interesting Facts and Figures about Roman London Jan 23, 2017


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    When Rome was in decline, it recalled its forces in the British Isles.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    When Rome was in decline, it recalled its forces in the British Isles.
    Yep, more important priorities came around.
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    Rome established a world order, a way of thinking and development that has influence to this day. It layed the foundation for the civilized world. In many ways the United States has built on this work. After WW2 the US layed the foundation for a structure in defense and trade that enabled the world to rise from the ashes and not descend to a new dark age that would last for centuries.

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    Britain’s Roman Legacy

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    Roman influence in Britain Mosaic floor created in the first century at Fishbourne Roman Palace in the village of Fishbourne, Fishbourne in West Sussex. Roman influence began in 55BC with Julius Caesar’s first, ineffectual invasion. After successes in Gaul, he pushed on for a final victory, ill prepared and undermanned. He came, he saw, and …



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    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Britain’s Roman Legacy

    www.britain-magazine.com/features/history/roman-legacy
    Roman influence in Britain Mosaic floor created in the first century at Fishbourne Roman Palace in the village of Fishbourne, Fishbourne in West Sussex. Roman influence began in 55BC with Julius Caesar’s first, ineffectual invasion. After successes in Gaul, he pushed on for a final victory, ill prepared and undermanned. He came, he saw, and …



    Remember there were no Briton Cities until the Romans came, saw, and conquered. Then there were public baths.
    ...and straight roads.

    http://www.geofflumley.org.uk/travel...om_London.html
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    And a couple walls. One around Londinum.
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    Reading, writing, religion, law, architecture, government, coinage, the name Britain (after the Roman godess), better agricultural practices, hydraulic mining, the city of London, public baths, water supplies, roads and sewers to name a few.
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