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    Agonizing over Afghanistan

    Agonizing over Afghanistan

    Interesting article about the inevitability of a Taliban victory in Afghanistan.

    The Taliban have concluded that it is only a matter of time before the United States grows weary of stationing troops in a far-off country and spending $45 billion a year on a war that cannot be won. They may well be right.

    NEW YORK – After more than 17 years, the time has come to accept two important truths about the war in Afghanistan. The first is that there will be no military victory by the government and its American and NATO partners. Afghan forces, while better than they were, are not good enough and are unlikely ever to be capable of defeating the Taliban. This is not simply because government troops lack the unity and often the professionalism to prevail, but also because the Taliban are highly motivated and enjoy considerable backing at home and from Pakistan, which provides it critical support and sanctuary.

    The second truth is that peace negotiations are unlikely to work. Talks have taken place on and off over the years, but diplomacy is never far removed from facts and trends on the ground. Both work against a negotiated settlement.


    The situation on the ground is something of a slowly deteriorating stalemate. The government controls territory where an estimated two-thirds of the population lives. But the Taliban and even more radical groups, including those associated with al-Qaeda and the Islamic State, control or contest nearly half the territory and have repeatedly demonstrated an ability to attack military and civilian targets alike anywhere and everywhere inside the country, including the capital, Kabul.


    What really weakens diplomatic prospects, though, is that the Taliban see little need to compromise. It is only a matter of time, they seem to believe, before the United States grows weary of stationing troops in a far-off country and spending on the order of $45 billion a year on a war that cannot be won.


    They may well be right. The White House’s recent announcement that roughly half of the current 14,000 US troops will soon be leaving reinforces the Taliban’s view that the future is trending their way. Coming on the heels of President Donald Trump’s decision to pull all US troops out of Syria, it is unsurprising that the Taliban and other insurgents would conclude that it is a question of when, not if, the remaining 7,000 US troops (and another 8,000 NATO soldiers) will be withdrawn.


    A complete troop withdrawal is a real possibility, given Trump’s longstanding skepticism of the value of the US effort. His frustration is understandable. More than 2,000 US soldiers have lost their lives in Afghanistan, and another 20,000 have sustained injuries. The war begun in the wake of the 9/11 attacks has cost well over $1 trillion. It is hard to see how 14,000 or 7,000 American troops could accomplish what more than 100,000 could not.
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    Note, the author does not advocate an immediate withdrawal.
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    If we wanted to win we would have to colonize Afghanistan.
    Call your state legislators and insist they approve the Article V convention of States to propose amendments.


    I pledge allegiance to the Constitution as written and understood by this nation's founders, and to the Republic it created, an indivisible union of sovereign States, with liberty and justice for all.

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    Withdraw. Chalk one up to the foreign policy school of hard knocks. Will any more money or death justify the expense and soldiers' lives already spent? There is no redeeming (or even slightly helping) countries that insist on sharia - they will always be third-world s-holes. The very nature of Islamic law, a to-do list of the most brutal human rights violations, prohibits any sort of stable and fruitful society.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MisterVeritis View Post
    If we wanted to win we would have to colonize Afghanistan.
    A good population for the task: our illegals.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marcus Aurelius View Post
    Withdraw. Chalk one up to the foreign policy school of hard knocks. Will any more money or death justify the expense and soldiers' lives already spent? There is no redeeming (or even slightly helping) countries that insist on sharia - they will always be third-world s-holes. The very nature of Islamic law, a to-do list of the most brutal human rights violations, prohibits any sort of stable and fruitful society.
    Pfft ... I have no doubt that some Americans are making a ton of money through US involvement in Afghanistan.

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