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    Quote Originally Posted by PJL View Post
    We get on quite well with Indo thanks....very good diplomatic relations and social and cultural exchange both ways . We have no interest or inclination to have any sort of war with them . Actually , they are one of our major trading partners , as is China Japan and India . It's how the world works . I think that will increase substantially when the new Silk Road trading routes are opened and functioning......15% to 20% increase in global trade , according to projections . Sooner or later , the US will have to face reality. American influence globally is in decline , and it's internal problems that are the cause . Thank fully the future is no longer dictated by America and the economy of endless wars.
    I have no problem with the world figuring out how to get things done without the US. That is a good thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    I have no problem with the world figuring out how to get things done without the US. That is a good thing.
    The world has no problem figuring out how to do things when the US it not involved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    Australia?

    The US is the only nation in the history of humanity that can project military force at will and sustain it, anywhere on earth.

    Austrian couldn't defeat Indonesia and it is next door.
    With respect Peter, I think the emboldened was a typo. Austria is not next door to Indonesia, and if you meant Australia - if I understand my history correctly; the Aussies kicked the Indonesians out of East Timor when 4,500 Aussies faced off 26,000 Indonesian military and militias. The Aussies were joined by 650 Canadians, 300 Gurkha riflemen, over 1,000 New Zealanders, a number of other nations including Portugal and Thailand also sent small forces. It was noted in Australia that, despite being asked, the US refused to send any troops to Timor - their only support was logistical. The Indonesians didn't even put up a fight against the Australians - so I don't know where you get the idea that the Australians couldn't fend off the Indonesians if they had to.

    Australia despite having a population less than 1/10th of Indonesia, has an annual military budget more than 3 times bigger. It has more aircraft and roughly twice the number of armoured fighting vehicles - only the Indonesian Navy is bigger, but their ships are pretty old and apart from some frigates built in the 80s and 90s, are mainly small coastal defence vessels, which I doubt would give the RAN's Aegis-equipped DDG's, FFGs, and SSG's too much curry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PJL View Post
    The world has no problem figuring out how to do things when the US it not involved.
    Really? How so? The EU is feckless when they are focused on foreign policy and not adding smothering regulations to its member states.
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    Quote Originally Posted by William View Post
    With respect Peter, I think the emboldened was a typo. Austria is not next door to Indonesia, and if you meant Australia - if I understand my history correctly; the Aussies kicked the Indonesians out of East Timor when 4,500 Aussies faced off 26,000 Indonesian military and militias. The Aussies were joined by 650 Canadians, 300 Gurkha riflemen, over 1,000 New Zealanders, a number of other nations including Portugal and Thailand also sent small forces. It was noted in Australia that, despite being asked, the US refused to send any troops to Timor - their only support was logistical. The Indonesians didn't even put up a fight against the Australians - so I don't know where you get the idea that the Australians couldn't fend off the Indonesians if they had to.

    Australia despite having a population less than 1/10th of Indonesia, has an annual military budget more than 3 times bigger. It has more aircraft and roughly twice the number of armoured fighting vehicles - only the Indonesian Navy is bigger, but their ships are pretty old and apart from some frigates built in the 80s and 90s, are mainly small coastal defence vessels, which I doubt would give the RAN's Aegis-equipped DDG's, FFGs, and SSG's too much curry.
    I got Australia right at the beginning of the post.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    Really? How so? The EU is feckless when they are focused on foreign policy and not adding smothering regulations to its member states.
    The biggest problem Europe has is US constant interference.....from Germany , all the way up to the Russian border. Nordstream2 is just one example . The problems in Ukraine are generated by US foreign policy blunders.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PJL View Post
    The biggest problem Europe has is US constant interference.....from Germany , all the way up to the Russian border. Nordstream2 is just one example . The problems in Ukraine are generated by US foreign policy blunders.
    If Europe was competent, US policy would not vex them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    If Europe was competent, US policy would not vex them.
    . The EU is a collection of individual sovereign nations in Europe , not one country...whereas currently , the US is one very confused country.......mainly because the future and status quo has changed dramatically and is still changing rapidly , against the wishes of neocons in the US government. Trumps trade war with China has been a flop , and the trade deficit has increased rather than reduced . Also Chinese investment in the US has fallen sharply ........all bad signs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PJL View Post
    . The EU is a collection of individual sovereign nations in Europe , not one country...whereas currently , the US is one very confused country.......mainly because the future and status quo has changed dramatically and is still changing rapidly , against the wishes of neocons in the US government. Trumps trade war with China has been a flop , and the trade deficit has increased rather than reduced . Also Chinese investment in the US has fallen sharply ........all bad signs.

    Don't tell the EU their member states are sovereign.

    Anyhow, the topic is Russia and its long term goals.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    Don't tell the EU their member states are sovereign. Anyhow, the topic is Russia and its long term goals.
    The EU was set up as an economic trading bloc . It was never suggested that Brussels wanted to override the sovereignty of EU members .....an attempted European take-over by stealth , which is starting to fall apart. In Europe , sovereignty will eventually rise above the desires of the unelected chair polishers in Brussells . Regarding Russia's long term goals , you really need to discern between Russia and USSR........the US likes to think they were responsible for the breakup of the Soviet Union , but they really had no say in it . If you read up on the last 1000 years of Russian history you will better understand what has created modern day Russia. Russia has never invaded another country or shown aggression towards another country without provocation ........their long term goals are plainly documented for anyone to see . Putin and his government are what's presently holding the world together , during an unprecedented period of American unending geopolitical nonsense and desperation.

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