Rank and File House Dems Reject Trump Overture

[DGUtley]

They won't give him the wall b/c they know if they give him the wall it probably guarantees his re-election and b/c they despise him. I has nothing to do with whether the wall is or isn't a good idea.

[Tahuyaman]

Did they get back from their "vacation" with lobbyists in Puerto Rico?

Who?

A gaggle of Democrats led by Nancy Pelosi. They vacationed with lobbyists in Puerto Rico. How much access did they sell?

[Tahuyaman]

They won't give him the wall b/c they know if they give him the wall it probably guarantees his re-election and b/c they despise him. I has nothing to do with whether the wall is or isn't a good idea.

I don't know that it would gurantee his reelection, but it certainly would be viewed as another political win for him. The Democrats certainly don't want that.

[alexa]

They won't give him the wall b/c they know if they give him the wall it probably guarantees his re-election and b/c they despise him. I has nothing to do with whether the wall is or isn't a good idea.

Most of the country agrees with the Democrats that border security is important and that a wall does very little to improve it.

American voters support 63 - 30 percent a Democratic proposal to reopen parts of thegovernment that do not involve border security while negotiating funding for the Wall, accordingto a Quinnipiac University National Poll released today. Every party, gender, education, age andracial group supports this idea except Republicans, who are opposed 52 - 39 percent.

Voters oppose 63 - 32 percent shutting down the government to force funding for theWall, the independent Quinnipiac (KWIN-uh-pe-ack) University National Poll finds. Again,Republicans are the only listed group supporting the shutdown, 67 - 24 percent.

The GOP is losing the battle as 56 percent of American voters say President DonaldTrump and Republicans in Congress are responsible for the shutdown, while 36 percent sayDemocrats are responsible.

Voters remain solidly opposed to a wall on the Mexican border, 55 - 43 percent, and reject every argument for the Wall. The 55 - 43 percent opposition compares to 54 - 43 percentopposition in a December 18 survey, just before the partial government shutdown.

American voters are negative in every question about the wall, saying:

• 59 - 40 percent that it is not a good use of taxpayer dollars;
• 55 - 43 percent that the wall would not make the U.S. safer;
• 59 - 40 percent that the wall is not necessary to protect the border;
• 52 percent say the wall is against American values as 41 percent say the wall is consistent with American values.

There is a security crisis along the Mexican border, American voters say 54 - 43 percent, and voters say 68 - 26 percent there is a humanitarian crisis.

"'Mr. President, it's on you,' voters say about the government shutdown, blamingPresident Donald Trump and Congressional Republicans more than Democrats," said TimMalloy, assistant director of the Quinnipiac University Poll.

https://poll.qu.edu/national/release...ReleaseID=2592

Seems to me that the Democrats are doing the will of the people.

[alexa]

A gaggle of Democrats led by Nancy Pelosi. They vacationed with lobbyists in Puerto Rico. How much access did they sell?

House Democratic leader Nancy Pelosi is spending the holidays vacationing in Hawaii, as a partial government shutdown grinds on with no resolution in sight.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/nan...uring-shutdown

I'm trying to think of a polite way to say you're obviously full of $#@!.



https://www.apnews.com/570cdff051774a9b81c56c9851533dc5

WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump accused House Speaker Nancy Pelosi of partying on a beach in Puerto Rico — with lobbyists, no less — while he sat in the White House over the weekend ready to work out a deal to end the federal shutdown. It’s not true.
Pelosi didn’t go to Puerto Rico or any beach. Like Trump, she spent the weekend in snow-bound Washington.
In recent days, Trump and allies twisted a weekend retreat in San Juan attended by about 30 Democratic lawmakers into a “vacation” that seemingly emptied the capital of the legislators needed to solve the partial government shutdown.

[Tahuyaman]

They are trying to keep this fiasco with lobbyists a secret from the media.

Pelosi is claiming that she didn't go. However about 30 other Democrat leaders did go. Now that they have their majority for at least two years, they need to sell as much access as they can.

[alexa]

They are trying to keep this fiasco with lobbyists a secret from the media.

Yes, that's why I only got a million results on Google.

[Captdon]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/busin...=.d11021a66dda

Or maybe they just don't like Big Macs?

Let the Democrats hold on. At the end of the month welfare money dries up. That will get the dums attention.

[Tahuyaman]

Yes, that's why I only got a million results on Google.

The media knows that they went. They just can't get a list of the lobbyists who went with them.

[alexa]

They are trying to keep this fiasco with lobbyists a secret from the media.

Pelosi is claiming that she didn't go. However about 30 other Democrat leaders did go. Now that they have their majority for at least two years, they need to sell as much access as they can.

I can see why you like Trump so much.

He has the same regard for the truth.