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    Government Shutdown Day 31, Tuesday the 22nd

    I believe the 30th day of the shutdown is the 21st.


    There is a story out that I could only see the headline because the article is behind a paywall of the NYT but the title is this:


    White House Redefines who is Essential to get Parts of Government Moving Again


    Others have posited that democrats have fallen into a Trump trap by taking him up on his claim that he owns the shutdown.


    Everyone should know that it is almost impossible to fire a government worker. There is a saying in the VA that the only way to get fired is to become a whistle-blower. There is a process available called Reduction in Force (RIF) where after 30 days of furlough (22 work days) government can RIF non-essential personnel. This is a process much easier than firing but of course it would be met with a slew of lawsuits by the federal union I am sure.


    It is estimated that around 40% of government workers in Washington are working against the administrations agenda. One cannot be removed for political reasons so the RIF has to identify who are and are not essential personnel based on a number of factors like time in service, etc. but it would get rid of many of them along with reducing government cost.


    Corporations often do this without the barriers government poses and often remove more personnel than necessary then start hiring back some that end up really being needed. Sometimes those that were let go are hired back. In the company that I work for one work acquaintance I knew was let go but said he didn't worry because he would be back next year and sure enough, he was hired back.


    So by the 22nd, if democrats still refuse to negotiate the administration can start RIFing non-essential personnel.


    This might get interesting. Personally I have not had so much fun watching the entrenched establishment meltdown over losing the reigns of power over government and over the administration.
    When Donald Trump said to protest “peacefully”, he meant violence.

    When he told protesters to “go home”, he meant stay for an insurrection.

    And when he told Brad Raffensperger to implement “whatever the correct legal remedy is”, he meant fraud.

    War is peace.

    Freedom is slavery.

    Ignorance is strength.

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    You can easily fire a government employee- if their supervisors properly document their job performance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    You can easily fire a government employee- if their supervisors properly document their job performance.
    Bwahahaha! You don't know how wrong you are. Even in corporations it can be hard to fire a union member.
    When Donald Trump said to protest “peacefully”, he meant violence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoosier8 View Post
    Bwahahaha! You don't know how wrong you are. Even in corporations it can be hard to fire a union member.
    Actually, I know the process through real life. Not offering an opinion over the net.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    Actually, I know the process through real life. Not offering an opinion over the net.
    Sure you do.
    When Donald Trump said to protest “peacefully”, he meant violence.

    When he told protesters to “go home”, he meant stay for an insurrection.

    And when he told Brad Raffensperger to implement “whatever the correct legal remedy is”, he meant fraud.

    War is peace.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoosier8 View Post
    Sure you do.
    Right.
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    Peter is correct, if you document disciplinary starting with counseling, warning, reprimand, 1 day suspension, 1 week suspension

    After a 1 week suspension based on the facts of the persons infraction the next could be Termination or 6 mths without pay.

    judges historically uphold firings that have a documented trail of discipline
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    You can easily fire a government employee- if their supervisors properly document their job performance.
    This is untrue.


    There is nothing easy about firing a government employee.
    Call your state legislators and insist they approve the Article V convention of States to propose amendments.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    Actually, I know the process through real life. Not offering an opinion over the net.
    It is a painful, methodical, deliberate process. It involves many people. It is not easy. It hasn't been easy for 50 years.
    Call your state legislators and insist they approve the Article V convention of States to propose amendments.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Common View Post
    Peter is correct, if you document disciplinary starting with counseling, warning, reprimand, 1 day suspension, 1 week suspension

    After a 1 week suspension based on the facts of the persons infraction the next could be Termination or 6 mths without pay.

    judges historically uphold firings that have a documented trail of discipline
    Nope. If it was easy we would see firings every day.
    Call your state legislators and insist they approve the Article V convention of States to propose amendments.


    I pledge allegiance to the Constitution as written and understood by this nation's founders, and to the Republic it created, an indivisible union of sovereign States, with liberty and justice for all.

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