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    From Caliphate to Insurgency: ISIS Is Not Going Away

    From Caliphate to Insurgency: ISIS Is Not Going Away

    The day after ISIL declared its Caliphate, I posted here that it would not last long and that they would devolve into an insurgency.

    In any war, the enemy gets a say in when the fighting stops. The Islamic State made clear on Wednesday that it is not done fighting the United States, nor the wider civilized world.

    ISIS quickly claimed responsibility for an explosion in the city of Manbij in northern Syria, saying through its news agency that a suicide bomber targeted American soldiers on a routine patrol.


    The spokesperson for Operation Inherent Resolve, the American-led coalition against ISIS, confirmed that American service members were killed in the blast, but did not specify how many. Media reports indicate that at least three or four troops died. It is unclear how many Syrian civilians or allied forces were also killed.


    It is probably not a coincidence that the attack occurred just weeks after President Donald Trump announced his decision to withdraw American troops from Syria. When announcing the withdrawal, Trump said the U.S. had defeated ISIS in Syria, "[his] only reason for being there."


    The bombing is a sober reminder that ISIS is not defeated and remains a threat. It is doubtful that the U.S., or anyone else, knows the exact number of ISIS fighters in Iraq and Syria, but no public estimate is close to zero. In August, the United Nations released a report saying that ISIS still had up to 20,000 to 30,000 fighters in Iraq and Syria and "hundreds of millions" of dollars to use. If those figures were true, that would mean that ISIS suffered no appreciable net loss of fighters since August 2014, when then-President Barack Obama first ordered airstrikes against the terrorist group. The month after airstrikes began, the CIA assessed that ISIS had between 20,000 and 31,500 members across Iraq and Syria.


    On Dec. 19, the day of Trump's announcement, a spokesman for Operation Inherent Resolve estimated that ISIS still had 2,000 to 2,500 fighters just in Hajin, the group's final territorial stronghold in Syria.


    Many of ISIS' top leaders and important middle-ranked men presumably remain alive. Moreover, ISIS has, from the last week of July through mid-December, claimed 1,922 operations around the world, according to Thomas Joscelyn. Nearly half of those operations, 946, occurred in Iraq, while another 599 occurred in Syria. Many of the group's so-called provinces also carried out these operations, especially in Afghanistan and Pakistan and in Sinai.
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    .....(lol)....it's common knowledge that ISIS was created by US/UEA/Saudi/Israel . and was run mainly by paid mercinarys from all over , who faught for money , not Allah of jihad . They trained jihadists provided them with arms , machinery. They were allowed to freely export bulk oil through Turkey (until Russia shut them down) . Isis will stop when the paydays stop - end of story.

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    geezus Peter1469 , where do you dig up all this tripe from ? The state of US mainstream media is well known , but it's becoming obvious by reading your posts to what extent the problem has become . No excuse , look for facts with evidence and stop swallowing the kool-aid !

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    Quote Originally Posted by PJL View Post
    .....(lol)....it's common knowledge that ISIS was created by US/UEA/Saudi/Israel . and was run mainly by paid mercinarys from all over , who faught for money , not Allah of jihad . They trained jihadists provided them with arms , machinery. They were allowed to freely export bulk oil through Turkey (until Russia shut them down) . Isis will stop when the paydays stop - end of story.
    That is not just stupid, it is a deliberate lie.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PJL View Post
    geezus Peter1469 , where do you dig up all this tripe from ? The state of US mainstream media is well known , but it's becoming obvious by reading your posts to what extent the problem has become . No excuse , look for facts with evidence and stop swallowing the kool-aid !
    Exo level insanity I see.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    That is not just stupid, it is a deliberate lie.
    ...not even a week ago a retiring Israeli General openly admitted that Israel has been supplying arms ,payment and medical requirements to ISIS fighters since 2014........you can go argue with him if you wish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PJL View Post
    ...not even a week ago a retiring Israeli General openly admitted that Israel has been supplying arms ,payment and medical requirements to ISIS fighters since 2014........you can go argue with him if you wish.
    How about a link. Sounds like loon territory.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    Exo level insanity I see.
    If I post my opinion , I label it clearly as such . All other posts come from sources that have genuine evidence in the article or source to verify it as fact . I have watched mainstream media outlets from England ,US , Europe and here in Australia and continue to be amused at the amount of unsubstantiated , politically motivated crap that they are still feeding people . One of the main culprits in all these countries is the Murdoch Press . I am not proud of the fact that he was born here in Australia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PJL View Post
    If I post my opinion , I label it clearly as such . All other posts come from sources that have genuine evidence in the article or source to verify it as fact . I have watched mainstream media outlets from England ,US , Europe and here in Australia and continue to be amused at the amount of unsubstantiated , politically motivated crap that they are still feeding people . One of the main culprits in all these countries is the Murdoch Press . I am not proud of the fact that he was born here in Australia.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    How about a link. Sounds like loon territory.
    ""Eisenkot's departing interview appeared to be part of a broader movement within Israel to be more transparent about the country's military activities: for instance, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu announced that the IDF had bombed Iranian weapons caches in Damascus International Airport just two days ago. Netanyahu further elaborated that "the accumulation of recent attacks proves that we are determined more than ever to take action against Iran in Syria, and we will strike harder in Syria if needed". READ MORE: Israeli Operations in Syria Curbed Iran and Hezbollah – IDF Chief of Staff Damascus has on multiple occasions condemned the attacks, dismissing them as a violation of the country’s sovereignty. Both Syria and Iran have consistently maintained that Tehran's presence is limited to military advisers assisting in the fight against terrorists."" ............."""Israel's outgoing military chief has publicly revealed that Tel Aviv has been engaged in direct conflict with Iran on Syrian soil, "systematically" attacking the alleged Iranian infrastructure "without making any statements"...........https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/2...bels-supplies/

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