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Thread: Abuse in Yemen's secret prisons: Was US involved?

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    Quote Originally Posted by donttread View Post
    Really? If this were true. If your government was using our soldiers for stuff like this you wouldn't care?
    DoD wouldn't be involved. CIA might, but doubtful after that program became public years ago.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CCitizen View Post
    I mentioned that Stalin's Penal System was as harsh as US Penal System since late 1990s. About the same Incarceration Rate.

    The worst abuse of Human Rights is the lack of help for tens of millions of people who need help. Lack of adequate medical care is mainly responsible for the fact that about 70,000 people in USA are dying from overdoze per year.

    We are the most incarcerated society on earth

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister D View Post
    Um...Stalin murdered millions.

    There is a difference between autism and stupidity.

    Yes his regime murdered the most. Then Hitler ( not a real socialist , right?) Then i lose track of who's in third place. We are way down the list , way back of the Britts even. But we did smoke tens of thousands in Japan in 45 , and many others I am sure over the years. A few students at Kent State. A few kids to the police state, and a whole lot of people have died in our prison system. No doubt some of the Japanese Americans tossed in camps during WW 2 died. We gave black men serious VD as a $#@!ing experiment.
    My point is that while we have not committed nearly the murders Stalin or Hitler's regimes did , there IS blood on our hands historically in the same time periods and currently. To forget that is to invite more of the same

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    Quote Originally Posted by donttread View Post
    Yes his regime murdered the most. Then Hitler ( not a real socialist , right?) Then i lose track of who's in third place. We are way down the list , way back of the Britts even. But we did smoke tens of thousands in Japan in 45 , and many others I am sure over the years. A few students at Kent State. A few kids to the police state, and a whole lot of people have died in our prison system. No doubt some of the Japanese Americans tossed in camps during WW 2 died. We gave black men serious VD as a $#@!ing experiment.
    My point is that while we have not committed nearly the murders Stalin or Hitler's regimes did , there IS blood on our hands historically in the same time periods and currently. To forget that is to invite more of the same
    You also have to compare apples to apples. What happened at Kent State was not because of a government policy to kill protesters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    You also have to compare apples to apples. What happened at Kent State was not because of a government policy to kill protesters.
    Yes, a sense of proportion would be helpful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Just AnotherPerson View Post
    Well if you count the way the inmates torture one another...…...
    And still most inmates dread tho loneliness of Supermax.

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    Quote Originally Posted by donttread View Post
    We are the most incarcerated society on earth
    Sad but true.

    On one of the forums there is a man who updates his topic called "Good Morning" every day. My reply is that for him it is good morning, but in USA it is dark night.

    On the other hand in 1937, Soviet incarceration rate was as high as US incarceration rate is now. In 1937 it was night i Russia, now it is night in USA.



    One of the worst Human Rights Abuses by American Society is the fact that tens of millions of "free" people live in poverty and without medicare. I understand that the will of the vast majority of US taxpayers is The Law, but in Scandinavia taxpayers support everyone who needs help.
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    Quote Originally Posted by donttread View Post
    But we did smoke tens of thousands in Japan in 45 , and many others I am sure over the years. A few students at Kent State.
    During the wars in Japan 1945, Korea 1950-'53, Southeast Asia 1963-'73, US killed a total of three million civilians.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    You also have to compare apples to apples. What happened at Kent State was not because of a government policy to kill protesters.
    You are correct and point taken. Still it is an example of the blood we had on our hands during the last century. We should fix ourselves before trying to fix the world. Our homeless, our prisons systems, prohibition and jack boot tactics used on addicts, too much war in too many places . These are the things we can truly affect .

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    Quote Originally Posted by donttread View Post
    We should fix ourselves before trying to fix the world. Our homeless, our prisons systems, prohibition and jack boot tactics used on addicts, too much war in too many places . These are the things we can truly affect .
    Definitely. These are key ideas of Classical Liberalism and Humanitarianism.

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