Chicago officer sentenced for murdering black teen Laquan McDonald

[Cletus]

Threats can ALWAYS reemerge, even after being shot multiple times. Granted, the kid was armed with a short range tool, but how could the cops know if he was otherwise armed?

I still believe this cop had horrible representation. Or, they were out to scapegoat this guy at all costs.

I used to do a lot of agency training. The most commonly issued law enforcement handgun in the United States is the Glock 22. It holds 15 rounds of .40 caliber ammo in a magazine. If you do a proper administrative load, you walk out the door with 16 rounds in the pistol... 15 in the mag and one in the chamber. Most cops carry two extra magazines. That gives them 46 rounds when they hit the street. I used to tell classes all the time that if they shoot a guy 46 times and he still poses a threat, call me at the office and I will bring you out a box of ammo and you can reload and we'll stand there and shoot him together until he is no longer a threat, but once he is no longer a threat, we immediately stop shooting him.

Ideally, the threat should be neutralized after the first controlled pair, but reality has a habit of not cooperating with ideal.

As I mentioned earlier, most people have no idea how many rounds they have fired after a confrontation. They don't know until the gun is inspected and someone tells them how many rounds were expended. When that happens, they generally look shocked and say "No way..." Reality is that most people, even cops, unless they are very well trained, fire until the slide locks back.

I don't know anything about this cop, his history on the street or his training, but I am inclined to agree that his lawyer sucked.

[The Xl]

Murder gets you six years. That's sickening.

Murder gets you 6 years if you're a cop or member of the state.

Make no mistake, we are not free, and their is no justice or equality under law in this country.

[Peter1469]

Murder gets you 6 years if you're a cop or member of the state.

Make no mistake, we are not free, and their is no justice or equality under law in this country.

Second degree murder in Illinois range from 4-20 years.

[Cannons Front]

Just so everyone knows, PCP is a drug that has strong and violent results, a great many people have experienced near super human strength and are nearly impervious to pain and even tasers.
https://www.nydailynews.com/news/cri...icle-1.2351706




Armed with an Knife and PCP is a deadly combination

[Safety]

Just so everyone knows....

The officer shot the teen 16 times as he walked away carrying a knife.

[Cletus]

Just so everyone knows....

The officer shot the teen 16 times as he walked away carrying a knife.

If that is the case, it changes the dynamics of the engagement. It doesn't necessarily make the shooting unjustified, because there are a number of factors to consider, but it very well may. I haven't really followed the case because to be honest, I strongly dislike Chicago and don't really care if the city self destructs. I am more interested in the technical aspects of the shooting than anything else.

[Cannons Front]

Just so everyone knows....

My post was not to say the shooting was or was not justified, it was just to point out dealing with people on PCP is not the same as dealing with people not on PCP. If you have someone on PCP many non lethal options are removed. If I recall at the time of the shooting I thought it seemed excessive and questionable, not because of the 16 shots there are a few factors that limit the importance of the number of shots. Walking away from the officer does not mean is not a danger, there may have been other people or officers that the man was walking towards.
Generally speaking Police officers are good people, some are power hungry people with a badge, some are mean and or evil people but most are people who want to serve their community, do their job and get home to their family every night. I do not know what kind of person or officer this guy was, maybe he deserves prison, the courts have ruled he did. That is how our system works, the courts decide guilt. I am just not a fan of the media convicting people then if the person is found not guilty riots break out.
We have a system, it is not perfect but it is what we have and it works.

[Lummy]

Just so everyone knows....

Blacks would just make a lot easier for themselves if they would cooperate, don't you think, "safety"?

A cop is justified shooting a suspected felon in flight.

[Safety]

Blacks would just make a lot easier for themselves if they would cooperate, don't you think, "safety"?

A cop is justified shooting a suspected felon in flight.

Yes, I'm sure you are inclined to make that assessment given your posts here, but a rational person would never consider walking away the same as flight. But you keep doing you.

[Lummy]

Yes, I'm sure you are inclined to make that assessment given your posts here, but a rational person would never consider walking away the same as flight. But you keep doing you.

IC. So a criminal suspect that walks away isn't actually eluding police, just going for a stroll? That's real interesting BS. Knock off your stupid personal attacks, you witless ass, or I'll report you.

Man, that swarm of cops look like a herd of ants on a big juicy black bug, don't they?