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    Quote Originally Posted by DGUtley View Post
    I want to be clear on one point: I am not indicting nor am I calling for the Lt. Governor of Virginia to resign, be flogged etc. I believe in the rule of law and due process. I was clear on that then and I want to be clear on that now. I am curious though. We had the Brett Kavanaugh situation where the left media and SJWNJ's were foaming at the mouth over a decades old unsubstantiated allegation of sexual assault, calling for his head, his firing, we had protests, tears, screaming that Republicans hate women, etc;


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    whereas this week we have the Justin Fairfax situation of a decade and a half old unsubstantiated sexual assault allegation and nobody is calling for his head, no calls for his firing, no protests, no tears, etc.


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    The question I have is: Why the difference in treatment?

    probably for the same reasons they excused Keith Ellison.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alexa View Post
    Perhaps because the lieutenant governorship of Virginia isn't a lifetime office with the potential to adversely affect millions of Americans when an obvious partisan hack like Kavenaugh is appointed?
    That made sense right up until your personal dislike of Kavanaugh entered into it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by alexa View Post
    Perhaps because the lieutenant governorship of Virginia isn't a lifetime office with the potential to adversely affect millions of Americans when an obvious partisan hack like Kavenaugh is appointed?
    That was exactly what I was going to say, people are using race as a factor, but how does that hold up to scrutiny when Clarance Thomas is mentioned....I guess that shows who is “really” fixated on race...

    Lifetime appointment vs four year term....hmmmm, very big difference.
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    Quote Originally Posted by alexa View Post
    Perhaps because the lieutenant governorship of Virginia isn't a lifetime office with the potential to adversely affect millions of Americans when an obvious partisan hack like Kavenaugh is appointed?
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    That was exactly what I was going to say, people are using race as a factor, but how does that hold up to scrutiny when Clarance Thomas is mentioned....I guess that shows who is “really” fixated on race... Lifetime appointment vs four year term....hmmmm, very big difference.
    I'm sorry, I'm not buying it. They are the same alleged offenses but there's no outrage because one is only the #2 of a State whereas the other is 1/9th of the SCOTUS? That seems to be an unprincipled rationale there. Again, I'm not advocating for either to be taken to the woodshed, I'm just curious as to the disparate treatment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DGUtley View Post
    I'm sorry, I'm not buying it. They are the same alleged offenses but there's no outrage because one is only the #2 of a State whereas the other is 1/9th of the SCOTUS? That seems to be an unprincipled rationale there. Again, I'm not advocating for either to be taken to the woodshed, I'm just curious as to the disparate treatment.
    I’m not asking you to buy it, because rational thinking would dictate that a #2 position in a state government /=/ a life long appointment to a position in the judiciary which governs the entire country. Not withstanding the point that the individual also holds positions in adverse to a particular “settled law”.
    “Conscientiously believing that the proper condition of the negro is slavery, or a complete subjection to the white man, and entertaining the belief that the day is not distant when the old Union will be restored with slavery nationally declared to be the proper condition of all of African descent, and in view of the future harmony and progress of all the States of America, I have been induced to issue this address, so that there may be no misunderstanding in the future”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Safety View Post
    That was exactly what I was going to say, people are using race as a factor, but how does that hold up to scrutiny when Clarance Thomas is mentioned....I guess that shows who is “really” fixated on race...

    Lifetime appointment vs four year term....hmmmm, very big difference.

    OK, I agree, length of term of office is a factor, but then why the big stink over Steve King then?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Safety View Post
    I’m not asking you to buy it, because rational thinking would dictate that a #2 position in a state government /=/ a life long appointment to a position in the judiciary which governs the entire country. Not withstanding the point that the individual also holds positions in adverse to a particular “settled law”.
    Are you suggesting that the outrage over Kavanaugh's alleged assault of that woman was more related to Roe than the assault?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DGUtley View Post
    I'm sorry, I'm not buying it. They are the same alleged offenses but there's no outrage because one is only the #2 of a State whereas the other is 1/9th of the SCOTUS? That seems to be an unprincipled rationale there. Again, I'm not advocating for either to be taken to the woodshed, I'm just curious as to the disparate treatment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    OK, I agree, length of term of office is a factor, but then why the big stink over Steve King then?
    I don’t understand your question.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DGUtley View Post
    Are you suggesting that the outrage over Kavanaugh's alleged assault of that woman was more related to Roe than the assault?

    Was it more related to Roe than the assault? I don’t know, but I noticed it was a factor.
    “Conscientiously believing that the proper condition of the negro is slavery, or a complete subjection to the white man, and entertaining the belief that the day is not distant when the old Union will be restored with slavery nationally declared to be the proper condition of all of African descent, and in view of the future harmony and progress of all the States of America, I have been induced to issue this address, so that there may be no misunderstanding in the future”

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