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    Quote Originally Posted by donttread View Post
    Ahh, a new arms race. The defense Contractors must be salivating! Perhaps if we were less pushy in waters near them...
    In waters near them = international waters.....and it's China building artificial islands and declaring everyone else respect that. But then......you've no clue merely mouthing off like you normally do. Utterly clueless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PJL View Post
    The money and resources would be far better spent on other things.....but you are correct , a new arms race would be to no ones benefit but the defense contractors . It will not help America , it will not help China and it will not help the world in general........it's just greed .
    But it will help the defense contractors , some other large mega corps and the super rich who use the stock market to bet on such things. And help politicians avoid topics like their terrible fiscal records. so that is all that matters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ransom View Post
    In waters near them = international waters.....and it's China building artificial islands and declaring everyone else respect that. But then......you've no clue merely mouthing off like you normally do. Utterly clueless.
    How much Blood Pressure medication do you take to deal with your inability to handle the fact that many others, in fact most others, have opinions that differ from your own?
    We don't need to control the other side of the world and China isn't about to end trade. They are ramping up because of our actions

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    Quote Originally Posted by donttread View Post
    How much Blood Pressure medication do you take to deal with your inability to handle the fact that many others, in fact most others, have opinions that differ from your own?
    We don't need to control the other side of the world and China isn't about to end trade. They are ramping up because of our actions
    You're entitled to opinion as is this forum. Your own facts you're not entitled to and when you're clearly wrong, I'm going to point that out. You're winging it, Donttread, everyone on this forum knows that. Please.

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    Quote Originally Posted by donttread View Post
    How much Blood Pressure medication do you take to deal with your inability to handle the fact that many others, in fact most others, have opinions that differ from your own?
    We don't need to control the other side of the world and China isn't about to end trade. They are ramping up because of our actions
    @Ransom's medications aside, the fact remains the Chinese expansion of their territory using artificial islands is disputed by several nations due to the vast amount of undersea resources involved. The US becomes involved for two main reasons: the nations, as allies and/or trade partners, asked us to help them stand up to a bully and due to international law of the see regarding free transit.

    Would other nations dispute the US if we built a bridge from Attu Station, Alaska to San Diego using artificially built islands spaced every 12 miles? Then, citing both the International Law 12 mile territorial limit and the 200 mile economic zone to exert ownership. Of course they would. Why would it be wrong for the US to do what the Chinese are doing?

    https://www.digitaltrends.com/cool-t...s-news-rumors/
    Why is controlling the South China Sea so important? Although the scattered islands may be unimpressive, the South China Sea is one of the busiest trade routes in the world. According to information gathered by the council on Foreign Relations, more than $5.3 trillion worth of shipping travels through the sea each year; $1.2 trillion of this trade belongs to the United States.
    Beyond its importance as a trade route, the South China Sea may also contain bountiful resources beneath the surface. The U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA) estimates that there are 11 billion barrels of oil in the South China Sea, as well as 190 trillion cubic feet of natural gas. As East Asia continues to grow in importance, these resources — and who gets to control them — will become more important.


    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...icial-islands/
    China lays claim to almost all of the South China Sea, through which more than $5 trillion (£3.8 trillion) of trade passes every year.
    The Philippines, Vietnam, Malaysia, Brunei and Taiwan all have rival claims.


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    Let's not forget we still have some 28,000 troops in South Korea. We are still the primary protection for Japan and have been since its' surrender in WWII. Guam had risen in relevance for the last 15 years(ask Rep Hank Johnson), we've Marines in Okinawa, we've military assets all over both East and South China Seas. The entire region critical to our trading partners Japan, South Korea, Indonesia, even Taiwan. China is making 'land grabs' for oil. China is seeking to secure its energy security that is crucial for both national security and economic growth.

    The Philippines, Brunei, Malaysia, Vietnam, Taiwan, Japan, Indonesia......all vying for resources in both China seas for obvious reasons.

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