The "Wall"

[MisterVeritis]

Concur the 25B is chump change.

I'd prefer that everybody owed us dough. The Commander-in-Chief could tweet the Pentagon Chief he didn't want another dime going into the Naval fiasco described in #133. Take all this "extra" dough we'll be saving, add it to all the "extra" dough from the new AMC, not to mention all the "extra" dough we'll be making from the China deal; we'll be floating in cash and have the debt removed in short order.

I read the article.

I spent 15 years in defense engineering. The rules are staggering. We should start over. The goal should be to deliver war-winning, quality products on time and at budget. The time from contract to delivery should never be measured in decades.

I have an example of a weapon we needed to be delivered early in one of the Gulf Wars. The DoD was able to waive nearly all the rules. The weapon was delivered in less than four months. The normal time for that same weapon was between six and ten years if all the rules were followed.

Clearly, something is wrong.


But that is NOT the topic of THIS discussion.

[Docthehun]

I read the article.

I spent 15 years in defense engineering. The rules are staggering. We should start over. The goal should be to deliver war-winning, quality products on time and at budget. The time from contract to delivery should never be measured in decades.

I have an example of a weapon we needed to be delivered early in one of the Gulf Wars. The DoD was able to waive nearly all the rules. The weapon was delivered in less than four months. The normal time for that same weapon was between six and ten years if all the rules were followed.

Clearly, something is wrong.


But that is NOT the topic of THIS discussion.

The only thing between Trump and his "wall" is money. This certainly is the topic of this discussion, otherwise, he'd just do it.

[Captdon]

The only thing between Trump and his "wall" is money. This certainly is the topic of this discussion, otherwise, he'd just do it.

It would be better if the Democrats gave him the money than to have him declare an emergency and take it. Either way, the wall gets built. With an emergency, precedent gets set. The money is not a real issue. Politics is the issue.

Trump cannot give in and he has to know it. Unless he gets what he asked for in the first place he has only one way out.

[MisterVeritis]

The only thing between Trump and his "wall" is money. This certainly is the topic of this discussion, otherwise, he'd just do it.

Right. Then stick to the topic.

He may still just do it. If he does he will have my vote.

[Cletus]

Should we ignore everything we know concerning the concept of "diminishing returns"?

That is not the case here.

[Hoosier8]

Wouldn't this approach be a lot cheaper and make more sense?

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-say...100005531.html

Trump is not calling for a concrete wall in the 5.7 billion proposal but the see through bollard fence in 10 areas requested by Homeland Security and the Border Patrol.

[Common]

@Docthehun what is your thoughts on how to stop illegal immigration and crime at our border, how do you think we can do that without a "Barrier" Maybe I should have asked first if you are for stopping illegal immigration

[Common]

Heres what I believe is going on, Soros and his group are promoting and funding caravans to go to the border to force their way in while trump is president and the democrat are stalling doing anything allowing as many to get in as possible. Why suddenly now caravans

Theres been some liberals on the forum trying to convince us democrats are for border security.

Sure they are, thats why they have sanctuary cities and sanctuary states and wont even report illegal CRIMINALS when they get out of prison. THey order their police not to cooperate with ice. Thats why democrats running for President want to include illegals in free medicare for all and free college. Kamala Harris emphatically stated that.

Then they tell us they are for border security but not for a wall. Doc with all due respect I call bull$#@! on all of it.

The Barrier cost is a mere pittance compared to what the illegals that are here are costing us. The cost of incarcerating the ones that have committed crimes would have paid for a barrier the entire length in the last 10 yrs

[Peter1469]

State of the negotiations. Dems are willing to go up to $2.5B, but are demanding a cap on the number of detention beds in the US.

The detention bed limit shows that the dems want the illegals released in the US. Unacceptable.

Of course I would say fine but $5.9B for the wall and kick all illegals out of the country while they wait for their hearings. And if a judge told me that I could not, I would tell him to enforce it- and kick the illegals out.

[alexa]

State of the negotiations. Dems are willing to go up to $2.5B, but are demanding a cap on the number of detention beds in the US.

The detention bed limit shows that the dems want the illegals released in the US. Unacceptable.

Of course I would say fine but $5.9B for the wall and kick all illegals out of the country while they wait for their hearings. And if a judge told me that I could not, I would tell him to enforce it- and kick the illegals out.

Your respect for the rule of law comes shining through, as usual.