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    Quote Originally Posted by IMPress Polly View Post
    Most of that video's contents are accurate, and that's a matter of historical fact. In fact, we could even extend the analysis into the early 1970s to show that, even that recently, it was still predominantly Republicans who voted to ratify the Equal Rights Amendment in 1972 amidst the second feminist wave of activism.

    The difference between then and now is the Reagan Revolution of the 1980s, which was calculated to win over the U.S. South for the Republican Party. It worked. At the expense of the North (especially the Northeast), which resultantly switched to the Democratic Party. During the 1980s, there were mass conversions of elected officials in my state of Vermont from the Republican Party to the Democratic Party and the reverse was true across the Southern states. So in essence today's Democratic Party IS yesteryear's Republican Party and to a substantial degree. I mean in terms of who actually composes it demographically.

    The Republican Party began reversing course on a lot of issues in the 1980s. For example, you remember how I just pointed out that it was mostly Republicans who voted to ratify the Equal Rights Amendment in 1972? Well, in their 1980 platform, by contrast, they became the only of the two major parties to officially oppose and condemn the ERA, thus beginning their long term shift in a different direction on these issues, by contrast.
    You're mixing up the "Southern Strategy" of Nixon with anything Reagan did. Reagan won 49 states. The both sides, Polly.

    The ERA was unnecessary and redundant. It should have failed.

    Polly, you can't make up your own history. You look foolish.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    Wrong again booboo. Republicans, created at the time of the buildup to our civil war and while anti slavery, they were and always have been very pro business. Republicans were the party of the north. The Democrats, having surrounded Thomas Jefferson as a leader in 1790-1 began to refer to themselves as "Republicans" later on. The Democratic party came with Andrew Jackson and the "Southern Democrats" formed as a response to the northern oligarchy/ industrialists, of which the original Democrats surround Jefferson were firmly against. The northern Democrats were always for the little guy and were very much anti slavery which split the party in 1860. THOSE descendants of southern Democrats joined the Republican part after the Civil Rights Act of 1964. All you have to do is look at the racist Republican leaders of today.
    Still can't read, I see.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    Wrong again: I was repeating the factual history of both political parties. If you ever pick up a book and learn something yourself, you'll be qualified enough to engage and compete in learned discussion rather than just make trolling drive by posts.
    The republican party was the party of civil rights and pro-business. The Democrats were the party of Jim Crow. Try reading something besides Marmaduke.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IMPress Polly View Post
    My god, you are arrogant! You really think you understand my state better than I do? Vermont voted for Reagan in the '80s on legacy primarily. Between the Civil War and 1992, Vermont had voted Democratic in only one presidential election: 1964, when the Republican candidate had proposed the use of nuclear weapons. It should be regarded as significant that that more-than-a-century-long tradition abruptly came to an end with the end of the Cold War. That didn't happen out of nowhere. It happened because of the '80s. I'm telling you this as someone who lives here and majors in American history.

    My liberal-minded parents used to be Republicans. They became Democrats in the '80s. The fact is that liberal "Rockefeller Republicanism" was the only kind that ever sold here. When that was abolished, people switched parties.
    You major in America History? I don't believe that unless you're still trying to make it past your freshman year. You know as much about American History as my oldest great- grandchild.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Safety View Post
    The problem is when people focus on the party instead of the ideology. The conservative ideology is the one rife with racism or hell bent on giving shade to racists.
    The Democratic Party went to war for slavery. They fought against civil rights and installed Jim Crow. They didn't even vote to abolish slavery. You should be able to do better.
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    Before 2000, the only Republican states in the south were Virginia and Texas (the two wealthiest states in the south). Republicans could only win southern states by running up margins in suburbs (where a lot of transplants live).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    Already did. You quoted it. And, no, I'm not going to waste my time playing cat and mouse with you.
    You can never prove anything you say Chris. You're a waste of valuable time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeb! View Post
    Before 2000, the only Republican states in the south were Virginia and Texas (the two wealthiest states in the south). Republicans could only win southern states by running up margins in suburbs (where a lot of transplants live).

    Actually what changed a lot of voters to voting Republican was Ronald Reagan. I was a Democrat before than because that was the only way I had a choice in the primary. However, in the General I always voted for the Republican since Barry Goldwater ran.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nathanbforrest45 View Post
    Actually what changed a lot of voters to voting Republican was Ronald Reagan. I was a Democrat before than because that was the only way I had a choice in the primary. However, in the General I always voted for the Republican since Barry Goldwater ran.
    Two things about that though:

    1. In 1980, the south was Reagan's weakest region. He barely won MS, AL, TN, ect.

    2. In 1984, even as Reagan destroyed Mondale in the south, Democrats still had the upper hand in the Congressional races. So neither Nixon, Reagan, nor the 1964 CRA really made the south permanently Republican. It happened gradually.


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