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    Sacked cardinal issues manifesto

    VATICAN CITY - A cardinal who was sacked from a senior Vatican post by Pope Francis has written his own "Manifesto of Faith," in the latest attack on the pontiff's authority by a leading member of the Church's conservative wing. ...

    conservatives balked this week when Francis made the first trip by a pope to the Arabian peninsula and signed a "Document on Human Fraternity" with a Muslim faith leader.
    Ultra-conservative Catholics are opposed to dialogue with Islam, with some saying its ultimate goal is to destroy the West. ...


    Mueller said he wrote it "in the face of growing confusion about the doctrine of the faith".
    He said some Church leaders "have abandoned the people entrusted to them, unsettling them and severely damaging their faith". He warned against "the fraud of (the) anti-Christ".
    Mueller, who did not mention the pope, is one of a handful of conservative cardinals who have open accused Francis of sowing confusion.
    They say he is weakening Catholic rules on moral issues such as homosexuality and divorce while focusing excessively on social problems such as climate change and economic inequality. ...



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    Although moderates (read close to secular) in Islam could work together with the Church, traditional and extremist Islam cannot: their goal is to conquer and convert the West.
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    The number of ways in which the Catholic Church's, as the OP puts it, "ultra-conservative" wing substantively differ from fundamentalist Muslims is finite and semantic, in my observation. The two groups share not only a mutual religious narrowness, but also opposition to women's rights, to gay rights, a lack of concern for the environment, an obsession with imposing modesty, etc. etc. Take away the technical details of what name they call God by and such and they are very much alike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IMPress Polly View Post
    The number of ways in which the Catholic Church's, as the OP puts it, "ultra-conservative" wing substantively differ from fundamentalist Muslims is finite and semantic, in my observation. The two groups share not only a mutual religious narrowness, but also opposition to women's rights, to gay rights, a lack of concern for the environment, an obsession with imposing modesty, etc. etc. Take away the technical details of what name they call God by and such and they are very much alike.
    Islamists tend to murder, conduct suicide bombing, rape, etc. Conservative Catholics don't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IMPress Polly View Post
    The number of ways in which the Catholic Church's, as the OP puts it, "ultra-conservative" wing substantively differ from fundamentalist Muslims is finite and semantic, in my observation. The two groups share not only a mutual religious narrowness, but also opposition to women's rights, to gay rights, a lack of concern for the environment, an obsession with imposing modesty, etc. etc. Take away the technical details of what name they call God by and such and they are very much alike.
    You mean both are against sin.
    Liberals are a clear and present danger to our freedom and our society and our morals.

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    Ultra-conservative Catholics are against all sin. We don't support terrorists.

    Having said that, Francis is the worst Pope in my lifetime. I hope God calls him home soon.
    Liberals are a clear and present danger to our freedom and our society and our morals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IMPress Polly View Post
    The number of ways in which the Catholic Church's, as the OP puts it, "ultra-conservative" wing substantively differ from fundamentalist Muslims is finite and semantic, in my observation. The two groups share not only a mutual religious narrowness, but also opposition to women's rights, to gay rights, a lack of concern for the environment, an obsession with imposing modesty, etc. etc. Take away the technical details of what name they call God by and such and they are very much alike.
    Where do you get this stuff?
    Whoever criticizes capitalism, while approving immigration, whose working class is its first victim, had better shut up. Whoever criticizes immigration, while remaining silent about capitalism, should do the same.


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    Quote Originally Posted by IMPress Polly View Post
    The number of ways in which the Catholic Church's, as the OP puts it, "ultra-conservative" wing substantively differ from fundamentalist Muslims is finite and semantic, in my observation. The two groups share not only a mutual religious narrowness, but also opposition to women's rights, to gay rights, a lack of concern for the environment, an obsession with imposing modesty, etc. etc. Take away the technical details of what name they call God by and such and they are very much alike.
    Extreme Muslims are a lot more militant and violent on average.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister D View Post
    Where do you get this stuff?
    Conservative Catholics behead liberal Catholics as apostates. All the time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Xl View Post
    Extreme Muslims are a lot more militant and violent on average.
    I would say always.
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