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    Quote Originally Posted by ripmeister View Post
    Actually, as I recall there was a fairly decent agreement put forth last year that POTUS rejected after Coulter etc. called him out. That aside, based on what you are saying why then did the R's not create border security during the time that they had complete control? To use your words if the Republicans were for border security we would have had it within the past 2 years of their total control, yet nothing was done. Hmmmmm! Curious.
    *why then did the R's not create border security during the time that they had complete control?* ................ When did the R's have "total control" ??
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    Quote Originally Posted by ripmeister View Post
    I assume you have an example of someone who advocates for no, zero protection of our borders.
    Here’s an Op-Ed from one of your friends in the liberal media telling us how open borders will solve all our domestic problems.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.usa.../amp/862185002

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    Trump should just ask for the same amount of barrier which was authorized by the previous two administrations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hanger4 View Post
    *why then did the R's not create border security during the time that they had complete control?* ................ When did the R's have "total control" ??
    2016 thru 2018. Do you need to be reminded that they had the WH and both houses of Congress?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tahuyaman View Post
    Here’s an Op-Ed from one of your friends in the liberal media telling us how open borders will solve all our domestic problems.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.usa.../amp/862185002
    Who is Jeffrey Miron? I was referring to pols. I should have been more clear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ripmeister View Post
    Who is Jeffrey Miron? I was referring to pols. I should have been more clear.
    Democratic Party pols say that they oppose open borders, but they oppose all proposals to secure the border. Their ideas won't secure anything.


    They are trying to deceive people. It's works with people like you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tahuyaman View Post
    Democratic Party pols say that they oppose open borders, but they oppose all proposals to secure the border. Their ideas won't secure anything.


    They are trying to deceive people. It's works with people like you.
    As I recall there have been past proposals to address border security that were agreed to on a bipartisan basis so to say that they oppose all proposals in simply untrue. Obama certainly added to the border security effort. Trump was simply being stubborn because he wasn't going to get his 5 billion dollar big beautiful wall based on his manufactured chicken little crisis. That's where the deception has been.
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    The Democrats will not support anything which provides physical border security. They only support token measures which won't secure anything. Their homes are secured much more effectively.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ripmeister View Post
    Actually, as I recall there was a fairly decent agreement put forth last year that POTUS rejected after Coulter etc. called him out. That aside, based on what you are saying why then did the R's not create border security during the time that they had complete control? To use your words if the Republicans were for border security we would have had it within the past 2 years of their total control, yet nothing was done. Hmmmmm! Curious.
    Your arguments are false, of course.

    Ann and Rush get credit for Trump's not signing the bill. That is happy talk. I should get the credit.

    The first year, during the most active phase of the coup attempt everyone thwarted (or tried to) Trump. Paul Rino was worthless. The Turtle has always been worthless. We gutted the worst Obama regime regulatory excesses in the first year. We also got a substantial tax rate benefit. Had it not been for that son of a $#@!, the happily dead John McCain (is his funeral over yet) we could have ended ObamaCare.

    So it is not as if the Republicans did nothing in the first two years. None of that has to do with the evil Democrats who prefer illegal aliens to American citizens, who support murdering children, and whose party was the party of slavery, Jim Crow laws, dogs and water hoses, and racism.
    Call your state legislators and insist they approve the Article V convention of States to propose amendments.


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    we already have border security

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