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Thread: McConnel: Trump will sign bill then declare National Emergency

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    Or pass a joint resolution to block the NEA.
    A joint resolution has no teeth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tahuyaman View Post
    A joint resolution has no teeth.
    The National Emergencies Act states that Congress can block a presidential declaration of a national emergency with a Joint Resolution. So in this case it has teeth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    The National Emergencies Act states that Congress can block a presidential declaration of a national emergency with a Joint Resolution. So in this case it has teeth.
    Agreed. In this case, it appears the Republican Senate won't fight it thus adding to several precedents on how Presidents can use the NEA for a wide variety of political purposes.


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    Quote Originally Posted by alexa View Post
    Strangely, your definition of a national emergency has no bearing whatsoever.

    If the Republican controlled Congress felt they weren't actual emergencies, there is a mechanism by which they could have countermanded his declaration of emergency.

    They never used it. Not once.

    Go figure, huh?
    Nice try at moving the goal posts you stated
    "Clinton and Obama were dealing with real emergencies not a failure to keep a campaign promise to their moronic supporters.
    http://www.brennancenter.org/sites/d...ct_2.13.19.pdf See the difference? Didn't think so"

    So back up you words, explain how these were National Emergencies.
    "The powers of the federal government are enumerated; it can only operate in certain cases; it has legislative powers on defined and limited objects, beyond which it cannot extend its jurisdiction." James Madison 1788

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    Quote Originally Posted by gamewell45 View Post
    It's quite possible if there were no outrages over bill clinton using his authority nearly 20 times to declare emergencies that people must have felt they were bona fide emergencies otherwise I'm sure they would have taken issue with them.
    Please see list posted, then explain how they were Bona fide emergencies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Max Rockatansky View Post
    Does the Act allow the Democrats to declare martial law and shred the Constitution? Should be fun!
    The problem with Declaring Martial law, is you would have to get the Military to support that. I do not see that happening with the US military
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cannons Front View Post
    Please see list posted, then explain how they were Bona fide emergencies.
    It's not for me to say whether or not they were Bona Fide emergencies; my point being if it was felt by congress that they weren't they would have raised a stink but as far as I know, no challenges were made so that tells me that they were either bona fide or congress didn't feel it was worth the effort to challenge them.
    God Bless America, God Bless our Military and God Bless the Police who defended the country against the insurgents on January 6, 2021

    Think 3rd party for 2024 folks. Clean up America.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gamewell45 View Post
    It's not for me to say whether or not they were Bona Fide emergencies; my point being if it was felt by congress that they weren't they would have raised a stink but as far as I know, no challenges were made so that tells me that they were either bona fide or congress didn't feel it was worth the effort to challenge them.
    Heres the problem gamewell with your scenario, bill clinton, obama enjoyed an endearing every loving media, hollywood and the entire entertainment industry loved them. Nothing negative was reported until they had no choice on clinton, but they protected him none the less.

    The press hollywood post nothing but negatives about trump and when they dont have any they make them up. When obama said the same things about the border the media and BS pundit peddlers all agreed. Now its trump and the border is a big nothing burger.

    Thousands sitting at our border trying to invade is is an emergency and a crisis. Criminals, some m13 some sick if that is not a crisis nothing is.
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    Again, mean old demmicrats...boohoo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Common View Post
    Heres the problem gamewell with your scenario, bill clinton, obama enjoyed an endearing every loving media, hollywood and the entire entertainment industry loved them. Nothing negative was reported until they had no choice on clinton, but they protected him none the less.

    The press hollywood post nothing but negatives about trump and when they dont have any they make them up. When obama said the same things about the border the media and BS pundit peddlers all agreed. Now its trump and the border is a big nothing burger.

    Thousands sitting at our border trying to invade is is an emergency and a crisis. Criminals, some m13 some sick if that is not a crisis nothing is.
    I can agree with your post up to a point; admittedly the media did not go after Clinton & Obama because they had a good relationship with the both of them; however putting the media aside, it's common knowledge that both Obama and Clinton were at odds with congress. The republicans in congress had no issue pointing out flaws and issues with both presidents. If declaring an emergency that wasn't a true emergency, they would have jumped all over it and made a huge stink over it especially since McConnell had it in for Obama. That's my position on it anyhow.
    God Bless America, God Bless our Military and God Bless the Police who defended the country against the insurgents on January 6, 2021

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    Once I tell you that we agree to disagree there will be no more discussion between us in the thread so please don't waste your time continuing to argue your points because I will not respond.

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