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Thread: Can Trump legally use emergency powers to build a border wall? Experts weigh in

  1. 02-15-2019, 01:20 PM #11
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    Quote Originally Posted by MisterVeritis View Post
    The courts have no role to play in deciding political questions.
    I believe President Gore might disagree with that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by alexa View Post
    I believe President Gore might disagree with that.
    You err. The failed Democratic attempt to steal the election was a legal question, not a political question.

    God, I really wish you were smarter.
    Call your state legislators and insist they approve the Article V convention of States to propose amendments.


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    Quote Originally Posted by MisterVeritis View Post
    You err. The failed Democratic attempt to steal the election was a legal question, not a political question.

    God, I really wish you were smarter.
    I understand why you like Trump.

    You inhabit the same fantasyland.
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    Quote Originally Posted by alexa View Post
    I understand why you like Trump.
    You inhabit the same fantasyland.
    I understand why you don't. You are not smart enough.
    Call your state legislators and insist they approve the Article V convention of States to propose amendments.


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    It's an obvious circumvention of the Constitution.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Xl View Post
    It's an obvious circumvention of the Constitution.
    Yes. Why do you think a Democratic Congress passed the Act in 1976 and continued to let it be used for all sorts of BS reasons for over 40 years?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Xl View Post
    It's an obvious circumvention of the Constitution.
    What is an obvious circumvention of the Constitution?
    Call your state legislators and insist they approve the Article V convention of States to propose amendments.


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    Quote Originally Posted by pragmatic View Post
    Think you nailed the main point of significance.

    Regardless of whether a President has the power...this thing can be tied up in the courts for a long time. Believe all it will take is for opponents of Trump to find one Judge to rule that he "doesn't have the authority". Which should be a pretty simple task...a lot of Judges don't like Trump.

    Once a "ruling" is in place then the appeals circus begins. Take many months at a minimum. More likely could be in the courts until Trump is out of office.
    Agreed. The biggest problem for the Democrats, IMO, is the legal precedent set by Democrat Presidents who used the National Emergency Act for other BS reasons for which it wasn't designed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MisterVeritis View Post
    What is an obvious circumvention of the Constitution?
    To be able to arbitrarily make up an "emergency" and essentially allow for dictatorial powers.
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    Congress gave Presidents the statutory authority to protect our borders so the statute is there to refer to.
    When Donald Trump said to protest “peacefully”, he meant violence.

    When he told protesters to “go home”, he meant stay for an insurrection.

    And when he told Brad Raffensperger to implement “whatever the correct legal remedy is”, he meant fraud.

    War is peace.

    Freedom is slavery.

    Ignorance is strength.
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