Ethereal (02-18-2019),IMPress Polly (02-18-2019)
This one actually seems to be a bit of a common myth promoted by the transgender movement. While indigenous communities are often very respectful of the ideas of different cultures (such as ours), I have heard from my share of "two-spirit" people on this subject and no, they don't actually believe themselves to belong to the other sex or recognize "five genders". At least not the ones I've heard from on the subject anyway. The projection and imposition of our culture's ideas onto Native communities seems to me as but another form and expression of American imperialism, in this case in the ideological realm. The whole two-spirit thing that white activists claim is a Native form of trans identity does not actually appear to be analogous that I've observed.FindersKeepers wrote:
Some Native American cultures were quite tolerant, while some European ones were quite judgemental.
Last edited by IMPress Polly; 02-18-2019 at 03:23 PM.
The scientific evidence is clear. The overwhelming majority of children who identify as "trans" desist by the time they reach puberty and end up identifying as homosexual or bisexual. Ironically, "trans" ideology is tinged with homophobia. Rather than admit a child is a homosexual, "trans" ideologues and quack doctors invent a dangerous fantasy involving a scientifically impossible scenario (being born in the "wrong" body) and then proceed to foist it on impressionable children. The fact is, there is simply no need for "treatment". If left alone, their confusion will resolve itself on its own, assuming they are given proper information by the adults in their life. The conventional treatment modality for children who suffer from temporary dysphoria is a classic case of the cure being worse than the disease.
Power always thinks it has a great soul, and vast views, beyond the comprehension of the weak. And that it is doing God service when it is violating all His laws.
--John Adams
IMPress Polly (02-18-2019)
By definition, all humans, regardless of how they choose to identify themselves, have human rights. And that is precisely why there is no need to carve out special sets of rights for particular groups of people.
So while I agree 100% with protecting the human rights of "trans" people, I do not believe that such protection obliges me to intellectually accept or tolerate the ideology underlying "trans" identity, especially when the available scientific evidence is so clearly contrary to the prevailing narratives that they attempt to foist on a credulous population.
Power always thinks it has a great soul, and vast views, beyond the comprehension of the weak. And that it is doing God service when it is violating all His laws.
--John Adams
Pagan cultures and religions, to one degree or another, not only accepted the clear distinction between male and female, but tended to emphasize and celebrate that distinction as an intrinsic and necessary aspect of cosmic balance. That is why pagan religions have male and female gods, and why those gods tend to embody masculine and feminine archetypes. Granted, there are exceptions to that, and those exceptions evince a tolerance that tended to characterized pagan societies, but it was an exception rather than the rule.
Power always thinks it has a great soul, and vast views, beyond the comprehension of the weak. And that it is doing God service when it is violating all His laws.
--John Adams
Also, have you heard of the emerging phenomenon of what's being termed rapid-onset gender dysphoria? That's an emerging trend where teenage lesbians (so far approximately 100% of these particular cases are specifically lesbians) "discover they are male" only after puberty hits, only to wind up transitioning back to a female identity later? Yeah, that's happening too now.
The problem as I see it stems from third-wave feminism's declaring gender a social construct that's fluid if not amorphous and denying any connection to biological sex. Now transvestites claim the same and feminists are upset?
Tradition is not the worship of ashes, but the preservation of fire. ― Gustav Mahler
To take it down a notch my points are as follows:
1. You said people that oppose the Trans agenda a mainly conservatives. I wanted to point out someone far from conservative that feels the same way.
2. On one cares if you want to trans out and get you junk cut off or have some weird implants to make you appear different. The issue is should you be allowed to be in the military or play womens tennis? Reasonable people say no to this stuff.. see Martina's comments. She is even good with someone that took the hormones etc...playing but draws the line at this idea I can just say I am a woman when I am clearly not and be allowed to play.
3. All this agenda about is making other people change so that a few freaks can feel good about themselves. It is not healthy for society at in the least.
"Don't piss down my back and tell me it's raining"----Fletcher in The Outlaw Josey Wales