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Thread: CovCath Student Nicholas Sandmann Sues WaPo For $250 Million

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    Quote Originally Posted by donttread View Post
    Shouldn't the punishment fit the crime? In the case of civil court I feel the judgement should be in line with the losses or reasonably predictable losses. If his problem is that he is afraid the damage to his rep will cost him jobs then just have WAPO pay him a couple hundred grand a year for 40 years and his attorney gets 10% for the first decade or so. He could even work on the side. Hell maybe WAPO could hire him as a "story vetting specialist". What would be punitive would be firings in upper management. There is no excuse for civil action to make people rich beyond the damage done and I doubt that was how civil court was initially conducted.
    Civil court should also not be ab excuse to avoid criminal consequences of being fired for super sized $#@! ups.
    There are no criminal consequences of being fired for super sized screw ups.
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    Quote Originally Posted by alexa View Post
    Bezos will fight it to the end and the kid won't get a penny.

    It'll be fun to watch, though.
    WaPo will settle. They will not want their people deposed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    WaPo will settle. They will not want their people deposed.
    I completely disagree, but then I'm not assuming ill intent on their part as you obviously are.

    As I said, it will be fun to watch and Bezos has the FU money to pay for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by donttread View Post
    Shouldn't the punishment fit the crime? In the case of civil court I feel the judgement should be in line with the losses or reasonably predictable losses. If his problem is that he is afraid the damage to his rep will cost him jobs then just have WAPO pay him a couple hundred grand a year for 40 years and his attorney gets 10% for the first decade or so. He could even work on the side. Hell maybe WAPO could hire him as a "story vetting specialist". What would be punitive would be firings in upper management. There is no excuse for civil action to make people rich beyond the damage done and I doubt that was how civil court was initially conducted.
    Civil court should also not be ab excuse to avoid criminal consequences of being fired for super sized $#@! ups.
    Civil case remedies include actual damages and punitive damages, among other remedies.

    Without punitive damages a paper like WaPo could simply pay small judgement and continue to violate journalistic standards.
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    Quote Originally Posted by alexa View Post
    I completely disagree, but then I'm not assuming ill intent on their part as you obviously are.

    As I said, it will be fun to watch and Bezos has the FU money to pay for it.
    Yes, WaPo was pushing an agenda rather than acting as journalists. They will settle out of court to prevent depositions becoming public.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    Yes, WaPo was pushing an agenda rather than acting as journalists. They will settle out of court to prevent depositions becoming public.
    Yeah, no.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alexa View Post
    I completely disagree, but then I'm not assuming ill intent on their part as you obviously are. As I said, it will be fun to watch and Bezos has the FU money to pay for it.
    Note: Emphasis added.

    I agree it'll be fun to watch. He's got the cash. Will he want the Plaintiff's attorneys to get into his files on discovery? I don't know. I predicted a payment of $1,750,000 at the gym this morning. It's lunch money to Bezos. People thought that I was nuts -- way too low. I don't see a tremendous amount of damage here.


    Quote Originally Posted by alexa View Post
    Yeah, no.


    It'll be interesting to see whether the Court in KY will agree to seal these depositions. WaPo will move to seal them and all documents provided in discovery as "trade secrets". I think that Plaintiff will push back. Like you said, this will be interesting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DGUtley View Post
    There are no criminal consequences of being fired for super sized screw ups.
    I was using that as an example for other cases. Such as rich people paying off victims not to charge them criminally or call them out on sex abuse. A service the civil court system offers the super rich and some gold diggers. In this case there was no "crime" I guess . Do slander and libel have criminal penalties? If they do isn't that what shouldn't be sought here as a deterant.?
    Punishing a company from exceeding it;'s bounds should be separate from the settlement paid to someone based upon their losses or what they have endured as they are separate issues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DGUtley View Post
    Note: Emphasis added.

    I agree it'll be fun to watch. He's got the cash. Will he want the Plaintiff's attorneys to get into his files on discovery? I don't know. I predicted a payment of $1,750,000 at the gym this morning. It's lunch money to Bezos. People thought that I was nuts -- way too low. I don't see a tremendous amount of damage here.
    There's less damage than there is case, and there's no case.

    I'm going long on popcorn futures.

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