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Thread: The Identity-Politics Left Now Despises Bernie Sanders

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    Quote Originally Posted by Green Arrow View Post
    How do you define it, personally?

    Some intersections are oppressed by other intersections. Intersections are based on race, sex, gender, sexual preference, and many other divisions. Sanders is out because he's white, male, heterosexual, Jewish and old. He's an oppressor, whether he knows it, likes it, or not. A young, secular, gay, black woman is oppressed, whether she knows it or has ever experienced any oppression.

    Mind you, it's not my thinking. It neo-Marxist, postmodern crapola escaping the universities and into the public square.

    One of the most important distinguishing features is it is divisive. We can say MLK was about identity politics but of a sort that was inclusive, he wanted equal rights for blacks. The new identity politics is exclusive and aims to take power over and oppress those identity groups that at one time historically were possibly oppressors.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    Some intersections are oppressed by other intersections. Intersections are based on race, sex, gender, sexual preference, and many other divisions.
    By that definition, claiming oppression based on being straight, white or Christian is identity politics.

    So, we seem to agree that the Republican party now runs almost entirely on identity politics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mamooth View Post
    By that definition, claiming oppression based on being straight, white or Christian is identity politics.

    So, we seem to agree that the Republican party now runs almost entirely on identity politics.

    As long as it's not personal, not I am being oppressed. It must be this identity group has been oppressed by that identity group.

    Furthermore, part of what you cut out of my explanation, it must involve not seeking equality but power, iow, the oppressed seeks power over the oppressor, the oppressed seeks to oppress.


    As for Republicans doing this, I have to ask where? Sure, groups like the alt-right, so called, even neo-nazis have adopted the identity politics of the left, but they also want the same thing as the left, to be entitled to care from cradle to grave. It's hard to distinguish them from the left. Their roots lie in socialism, even leaders like Richard Spencer declare themselves socialists.

    I imagine what you're thinking of is a leftist reframing of some Republicans into terms your leftist brain can understand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mamooth View Post
    By that definition, claiming oppression based on being straight, white or Christian is identity politics.

    So, we seem to agree that the Republican party now runs almost entirely on identity politics.
    It is the opposite. You are against anyone who isn't a part of the Democratic identity grouping. You do need to understand English to understand this. You need to work on your comprehension skills before sitting with the adults.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    As long as it's not personal, not I am being oppressed. It must be this identity group has been oppressed by that identity group.
    So, just like whites claiming oppression by blacks, Christians by atheists, straights by gays. All of that is standard conservative groupspeak now.

    Furthermore, part of what you cut out of my explanation, it must involve not seeking equality but power, iow, the oppressed seeks power over the oppressor, the oppressed seeks to oppress.
    Again, just like Republicans are saying now.

    As for Republicans doing this, I have to ask where?
    FOX News is entirely about such Republican identify politics. Have you heard of it? The Trump campaign was largely about it. Do you remember that?
    Your argument seems to be "When your side does it, it's bad. When my side does the same, it's fine, because my definitions say my side is incapable of doing it." As a liberal, I place a high value on consistency, so I reject your way of thinking.
    Last edited by mamooth; 02-27-2019 at 04:54 PM.

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