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    Quote Originally Posted by Tahuyaman View Post
    Debt can be dealt with. Once a government becomes all powerful, the only way to deal with it is to abolish it and start over.
    How will that happen? The foundations of liberalism--individualism and equality--offer no hope of preventing all powerful centralization or of abolishing it..
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    Quote Originally Posted by MisterVeritis View Post
    There is nothing about conservatism that relishes a powerful, central, authoritarian state. Those who claim it err.

    Definition and declaration.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    How will that happen? The foundations of liberalism--individualism and equality--offer no hope of preventing all powerful centralization or of abolishing it..
    The same way it generally happens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Xl View Post
    Conservatives have always been for using the power of the state to advance their agenda. They have been advocates for a state as big and as tyrannical as the left for a very long time now.
    Quote Originally Posted by MisterVeritis View Post
    Clearly, you are not now and have never been a conservative.

    All authoritarian statists believe as you do.

    Correct. There's not a conservative on the planet who would make such a foolish statement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tahuyaman View Post
    The same way it generally happens.
    It doesn't generally happen. We've had one such revolution.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    It doesn't generally happen. We've had one such revolution.
    We aren't the only nation in world history.

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    The era of limited government ended with the ratification of the Sixteenth Amendment, which gave the vast central government direct and first claim on the wages earned by the citizens.
    Freedom Requires Obstinance.

    We the People DID NOT vote in a majority Rodent Congress, they stole it via election fraud.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    It will be after our unsustainable spending crashes the economy and the USD.
    No, that is not what's going to happen at all.

    When the system crashes, and the crash will be by design, the usual suspects will demand expansions of government power and the concomitant restitritions on liberty.

    You will not be allowed to voice dissent, for that will be viewed as anti whatever it is the Rodents will be declaring the solution to the problem is.

    This IS how the tyrants always seize control.

    Don't give up your guns
    Freedom Requires Obstinance.

    We the People DID NOT vote in a majority Rodent Congress, they stole it via election fraud.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    How will that happen? The foundations of liberalism--individualism and equality--offer no hope of preventing all powerful centralization or of abolishing it..
    It starts with people standing up and shouting "I'm mad as hell and I'm not going to take it any more."

    THAT is what the Second Amendment is for.
    Freedom Requires Obstinance.

    We the People DID NOT vote in a majority Rodent Congress, they stole it via election fraud.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    It doesn't generally happen. We've had one such revolution.
    We have had two. The Second was more typical of the normal historical trend, in which wealthy oligarchs con a bunch of morons to shed their own blood fighting the powers that be to permit the seditious oligarchs a chance to form their own tyranny, one in which it almost always leads to conditions for the saps that fought the rebellion into conditions far far worse than existed before they were duped into fighting.

    The American Revolution was a true revolution in thst it truly altered, and for the better, the living conditions of the successful insurgents.

    We won't be that lucky again, we are just going to have to be satisfied seeing our Rodent neighbors and other oppressors hung from the lamp posts and trees.
    Freedom Requires Obstinance.

    We the People DID NOT vote in a majority Rodent Congress, they stole it via election fraud.

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