Anti-Christian bigots in Colorado call retreat

[Chris]

Identity politics reaches into religion to fight supposed oppression.

Anti-Christian bigots in Colorado call retreat

In June 2018, Justice Anthony Kennedy issued a 7-2 ruling in the case of cake artist Jack Phillips. Phillips was being sued for his refusal on religious grounds to design a cake to celebrate a same-sex wedding.

...The commissioners, a small handful of self-important bureaucrats, had made little secret in their public meetings of what they thought of Phillips’ Christian religion and its tenets. And in fact, their bigoted disparagement of Phillips’ constitutionally protected exercise of religion became a key part of Kennedy’s ruling.

“The Civil Rights Commission’s treatment of his case has some elements of a clear and impermissible hostility toward the sincere religious beliefs that motivated [Phillips’] objection,” Kennedy wrote. Among other things, he cited the words of Commissioner Diann Rice:

“Freedom of religion and religion has been used to justify all kinds of discrimination throughout history, whether it be slavery, whether it be the Holocaust, whether it be—I mean, we—we can list hundreds of situations where freedom of religion has been used to justify discrimination. And to me it is one of the most despicable pieces of rhetoric that people can use to—to use their religion to hurt others.”

This quotation could hardly be more absurd. "Freedom of religion" was used to justify slavery? By whom? "Freedom of religion" was used to justify repression of a minority religion and mass murder of its adherents in the Holocaust? Really?...

[jet57]

Identity politics reaches into religion to fight supposed oppression.

Anti-Christian bigots in Colorado call retreat

In June 2018, Justice Anthony Kennedy issued a 7-2 ruling in the case of cake artist Jack Phillips. Phillips was being sued for his refusal on religious grounds to design a cake to celebrate a same-sex wedding.

...The commissioners, a small handful of self-important bureaucrats, had made little secret in their public meetings of what they thought of Phillips’ Christian religion and its tenets. And in fact, their bigoted disparagement of Phillips’ constitutionally protected exercise of religion became a key part of Kennedy’s ruling.

“The Civil Rights Commission’s treatment of his case has some elements of a clear and impermissible hostility toward the sincere religious beliefs that motivated [Phillips’] objection,” Kennedy wrote. Among other things, he cited the words of Commissioner Diann Rice:

“Freedom of religion and religion has been used to justify all kinds of discrimination throughout history, whether it be slavery, whether it be the Holocaust, whether it be—I mean, we—we can list hundreds of situations where freedom of religion has been used to justify discrimination. And to me it is one of the most despicable pieces of rhetoric that people can use to—to use their religion to hurt others.”

This quotation could hardly be more absurd. "Freedom of religion" was used to justify slavery? By whom? "Freedom of religion" was used to justify repression of a minority religion and mass murder of its adherents in the Holocaust? Really?...

Ridiculous "opinion" from a right-wing rag.

[Chris]

Ridiculous "opinion" from a right-wing rag.

Uh, how's that, jet? Say something meaningful, please.

[hanger4]

Ridiculous "opinion" from a right-wing rag.

*"Freedom of religion" was used to justify slavery? By whom? "Freedom of religion" was used to justify repression of a minority religion and mass murder of its adherents in the Holocaust?* .................. Go for it jet57, answer the questions, by whom ??

[jet57]

Uh, how's that, jet? Say something meaningful, please.

Well, let's start with this:

The commissioners, a small handful of self-important bureaucrats, had made little secret in their public meetings of what they thought of Phillips’ Christian religion and its tenets. And in fact, their bigoted disparagement of Phillips’ constitutionally protected exercise of religion became a key part of Kennedy’s ruling.

That paragraph right there shows a prejudice in the writer's mind which sinks any attempt to be objective: that is not objective journalism: it's right-wing hysteria over the fake news of attacks on the Christian religion.

Phillips may have felt sincere in his motivations, but discrimination against one's sexuality was the driving force of the suit: No laws respecting religion... It was the same thing as telling blacks that they couldn't sit at a lunch counter. As for what Diane Rice had to say:

Defenders of slavery noted that in the Bible, Abraham had slaves. They point to the Ten Commandments, noting that "Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's house, ... nor his manservant, nor his maidservant." In the New Testament, Paul returned a runaway slave, Philemon, to his master, and, although slavery was widespread throughout the Roman world, Jesus never spoke out against it.

http://www.ushistory.org/us/27f.asp (The url works; highlight and click)

And here's some notes on Christianity and the Holocaust http://blogs.bu.edu/guidedhistory/je...shoshana-koff/
Please note the "edu" in the url.

So, just on the face of it your source article is right-wing BS, never mind how it fans the fake news flames about some sort war on Christianity.

[jet57]

*"Freedom of religion" was used to justify slavery? By whom? "Freedom of religion" was used to justify repression of a minority religion and mass murder of its adherents in the Holocaust?* .................. Go for it jet57, answer the questions, by whom ??

I have no idea what you're yapping about.

[Chris]

Well, let's start with this:

That paragraph right there shows a prejudice in the writer's mind which sinks any attempt to be objective: that is not objective journalism: it's right-wing hysteria over the fake news of attacks on the Christian religion.

Phillips may have felt sincere in his motivations, but discrimination against one's sexuality was the driving force of the suit: No laws respecting religion... It was the same thing as telling blacks that they couldn't sit at a lunch counter. As for what Diane Rice had to say:

http://www.ushistory.org/us/27f.asp (The url works; highlight and click)

And here's some notes on Christianity and the Holocaust http://blogs.bu.edu/guidedhistory/je...shoshana-koff/
Please note the "edu" in the url.

So, just on the face of it your source article is right-wing BS, never mind how it fans the fake news flames about some sort war on Christianity.

The opinion of that paragragh is supported by the next paragragh which includes a quote of one of the commissioners.

The rest of your post drifts off unintelligibly.

[Captdon]

Well, let's start with this:

That paragraph right there shows a prejudice in the writer's mind which sinks any attempt to be objective: that is not objective journalism: it's right-wing hysteria over the fake news of attacks on the Christian religion.

Phillips may have felt sincere in his motivations, but discrimination against one's sexuality was the driving force of the suit: No laws respecting religion... It was the same thing as telling blacks that they couldn't sit at a lunch counter. As for what Diane Rice had to say:

http://www.ushistory.org/us/27f.asp (The url works; highlight and click)

And here's some notes on Christianity and the Holocaust http://blogs.bu.edu/guidedhistory/je...shoshana-koff/
Please note the "edu" in the url.

So, just on the face of it your source article is right-wing BS, never mind how it fans the fake news flames about some sort war on Christianity.

The 57 must be your IQ.

[hanger4]

*"Freedom of religion" was used to justify slavery? By whom? "Freedom of religion" was used to justify repression of a minority religion and mass murder of its adherents in the Holocaust?* .................. Go for it jet57, answer the questions, by whom ??

Sure ya do, you attempted to answer in your post to Chris, and failed miserably.

[countryboy]

Uh, how's that, jet? Say something meaningful, please.