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    You can't increase individual liberties and freedoms by increasing the power of government by creating more agencies led by unelected people

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Obvious View Post
    Pretty sure most of the dingbats on this thread have no idea what "socialism" is.

    So for usefulness this thread is pretty much junk for junkheads.
    Then expain your idea of socialism in terms everyone can understand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tahuyaman View Post
    The Democratic candidates advocating this thing called "democratic socialism".

    Socialism in any form is taking more power from the people and handing it over to a government agency rife with a huge bureocracy.


    How can that be considered democratic? It is an oxymoron. It is a term intended to deceive you.
    I understand the definition of socialism is fluid, but I still see it as the government ownership of property and the means of production. Democratic socialism is a market economy with private ownership, but very heavy government interference and social welfare plans.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tahuyaman View Post
    You can't increase individual liberties and freedoms by increasing the power of government by creating more agencies led by unelected people
    Or even elected ones for that matter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    I understand the definition of socialism is fluid, but I still see it as the government ownership of property and the means of production. Democratic socialism is a market economy with private ownership, but very heavy government interference and social welfare plans.
    Democratic socialism does not approve of "private" ownership. It advocates public ownership. Workers own the businesses not one person or family. Co-ops so to speak.
    Last edited by Tahuyaman; 06-17-2019 at 07:48 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    I understand the definition of socialism is fluid, but I still see it as the government ownership of property and the means of production. Democratic socialism is a market economy with private ownership, but very heavy government interference and social welfare plans.
    People like you won't call it socialism until every jot and tittle is in place. At that point it will be too late. The socialists have you by the balls. They will win. Meanwhile you will still say it isn't socialism.
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    To me the quote and article spells it out. Socialism is like cancer there is pre cancer and then there are dozens of varieties of cancer. Some treatable, some not.. but in the end it is all cancer. Cancer is never good and Socialism in all its shades is immoral.


    A system that lets us make our own decisions about our own lives is more moral than one that transfers them to powerful strangers. Freedom is better than coercion. Prosperity is more uplifting than poverty. "The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of blessings; the inherent virtue of socialism is the equal sharing of miseries," Winston Churchill said in 1945. Let's not cede the moral high ground to people who tout utopian ideas that usually result in misery.

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    Socialism is a philosophy of misery because it is based on the flawed idea that a men are inherently good and that a wise and educated few can benevolently rule over everyone. As it is implemented, it demands that government power be the final authority in life.

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    Full disclosure this was posted on another thread, but as this is the place where we are documenting how bad socialism sucks. I thought it was appropriate to repost. My apologies to the Chairman
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    How Socialism destroyed Africa. Lot of Socialism there, therefore there is a lot of misery and suffering. Funny how that always seems to be the case.



    Equating capitalism with colonialism, Africa’s nationalist leaders rejected it and adopted socialism in the 1960s. Foreign companies were nationalized, a string of state-owned enterprises were established and a plethora of state controls on rent, prices, imports and foreign exchange were imposed to capture the commanding heights of the economy. But nowhere in Africa was the socialist experiment successful. It was a miserable fiasco in country after country including Angola (under dos Santos), Benin (under Kerekou), Ethiopia (under Mengistu), Ghana (under Nkrumah), Guinea (under Toure), Mali (under Keita), Mozambique (under Chissano), Tanzania (under Nyerere), and Zambia, among others.
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