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    Quote Originally Posted by Common Sense View Post
    Venezuela is a socialist nation, but it's also a $#@!ed up nation.

    Socialism can certainly be a $#@!ty form of government. Particularly when practiced outside of democracy. Communism also sucks and is totalitarian in nature.

    I'm not sure anyone here is a proponent of pure socialism and certainly not communism.

    The US and most western nations incorporate elements of socialism. Northern European nations like Sweden, Norway and Denmark incorporate more and are successful nations with thriving free enterprise and democracy.
    Norway has 5 million people living of the North Sea Oil Trust fund, Sweden has 11 million people living in a generous welfare state that is collapsing under the flood of third world hordes draining it dry. Denmark is 4 million people living on trade transactions resulting from shipping German exports. These are no way shape or form nations that should be held up as "good socialist" systems. Total population of these states less than Texas and their systems are freakishly skewed by other factors.
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    Socialism is about control. State control over people. Read the Declaration of Independence and think about what it truly says. The genius of the document is in its repudiation of state control.. or as it is called in our times socialism.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MisterVeritis View Post
    Our Democrat politicians are pushing hard for socialism. I am somewhat surprised there have been no assassinations.
    Some of them certainly push for and believe that socialist elements regarding healthcare are important. Mainstream Dems don't really though.

    None of the even far left Dems are pushing for pure socialism. They aren't calling for ending private ownership etc..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Admiral Ackbar View Post
    Socialism is about control. State control over people. Read the Declaration of Independence and think about what it truly says. The genius of the document is in its repudiation of state control.. or as it is called in our times socialism.
    The conspiracy theory view of socialism is that it's nefarious and is about control.

    The reality is, those who want to implement socialist type programs and policies are actually just interested in helping people. They may or may not be misguided in their beliefs, but claiming their intentions are nefarious is just a belief and not a fact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Common Sense View Post
    Some of them certainly push for and believe that socialist elements regarding healthcare are important. Mainstream Dems don't really though.

    None of the even far left Dems are pushing for pure socialism. They aren't calling for ending private ownership etc..
    I suspect you, like many, will not call it socialism until every possible facet of socialism is in place. For me, central planning and control is the basis. Add in redistribution of wealth through government programs and it is socialism. It marks the end of freedom and liberty.
    Call your state legislators and insist they approve the Article V convention of States to propose amendments.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Common Sense View Post
    The conspiracy theory view of socialism is that it's nefarious and is about control.

    The reality is, those who want to implement socialist type programs and policies are actually just interested in helping people. They may or may not be misguided in their beliefs, but claiming their intentions are nefarious is just a belief and not a fact.
    Wrong.
    Call your state legislators and insist they approve the Article V convention of States to propose amendments.


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    Quote Originally Posted by MisterVeritis View Post
    I suspect you, like many, will not call it socialism until every possible facet of socialism is in place. For me, central planning and control is the basis. Add in redistribution of wealth through government programs and it is socialism. It marks the end of freedom and liberty.
    You figured out our evil plan.

    We also hate hate puppies and kittens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Common Sense View Post
    You figured out our evil plan.

    We also hate hate puppies and kittens.
    Hitler liked dogs and children.
    Call your state legislators and insist they approve the Article V convention of States to propose amendments.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Common Sense View Post
    You figured out our evil plan.

    We also hate hate puppies and kittens.
    Not the kittens!
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    Quote Originally Posted by MisterVeritis View Post
    Hitler liked dogs and children.
    You don't like dogs or children?

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