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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    The French Revolution was an example of the dangers of democracy. Rule of the mob.
    It was inspired by the American revolution.

    The reign of terror was a complex portion of the revolution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Admiral Ackbar View Post
    French Revolution most certainly was a socialist movement. They didn't call it that but all the elements are there. The class warfare (compare) this to the American Revolution. The denouncing and cleansing of society. The imperative for political purity in the pursuit of Equality, Liberty and Fraternity...

    Equal outcomes were demanded. In the end those outcomes were enforced at the Guillotine!

    Sound familiar????
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    Quote Originally Posted by Admiral Ackbar View Post
    French Revolution most certainly was a socialist movement. They didn't call it that but all the elements are there. The class warfare (compare) this to the American Revolution. The denouncing and cleansing of society. The imperative for political purity in the pursuit of Equality, Liberty and Fraternity...

    Equal outcomes were demanded. In the end those outcomes were enforced at the Guillotine!

    Sound familiar????
    The French Revolution was inspired by the American revolution and it created a republic. It was a very tumultuous and complex revolution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Common Sense View Post
    The French Revolution was inspired by the American revolution and it created a republic. It was a very tumultuous and complex revolution.
    I understand the inspiration. The reality on the ground is that it was taken over by what we would call in our day socialists and hence the disasters that socialism always brings.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Admiral Ackbar View Post
    I understand the inspiration. The reality on the ground is that it was taken over by what we would call in our day socialists and hence the disasters that socialism always brings.
    Not really.

    The goal was the abolition of feudalism and there was division among the leaders of the revolution. The Jacobins certainly were farther left, but hardly socialists.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MisterVeritis View Post
    Depending on what you mean we shall probably disagree.

    Wealth redistribution through state programs is probably always socialist. Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, and all other welfare programs are socialist and harmful to free people.

    What did you mean?
    The only way those things are socialist, is if you redefine the meaning of the word. Socialism is government ownership of the means of production. Period, end of story.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Common Sense View Post
    Not really.

    The goal was the abolition of feudalism and there was division among the leaders of the revolution. The Jacobins certainly were farther left, but hardly socialists.
    They wanted to appropriate property, kill those that resisted and create a new society based on equality of outcome.. what else do you call that
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    Quote Originally Posted by Common Sense View Post
    The French Revolution was inspired by the American revolution and it created a republic. It was a very tumultuous and complex revolution.
    I rather think the Americans were inspired by Locke and thinkers like him while the French were inspired by Rousseau and thinkers like him. One might think of it as, while both were Enlightenment-based liberalism, a difference in emphasis on individualism vs egalitarianism. One led to the United States, the other to Napolean.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Admiral Ackbar View Post
    They wanted to appropriate property, kill those that resisted and create a new society based on equality of outcome.. what else do you call that
    There was no attempt to create a society based on equality of outcome. There was certainly mob and government violence and they did appropriate properties held by the monarchy. The American revolution appropriated British property as well.

    I call it the French Revolution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Common Sense View Post
    You really crack me up.

    I'm not a socialist or evil and I love puppies and kittens.
    Really?

    1) socialist. Most likely.
    2) evil. Yes.
    3) love puppies. Insufficient evidence. But who doesn't at least to pretend to love puppies?
    4) and kittens. Insufficient evidence. But who doesn't at least to pretend to love kittens?
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